FractalMind Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Since we're being open and all sharing/caring and stuff.. I both spam ults at the pod, run off into nearby corridors and field overpowered weapons that can mow down a filled corridor in microseconds. I ask forgiveness, but at the same time, think that this is all perfectly acceptable. I'm conflicted. :D It just all depends on context. Low level defense or survival is just way easy for the first 10 minutes/waves. I think people should have fun and do what they feel is best, but I try to draw a line in the sand. On defense, I stick to the primary area, venturing into the corridors only temporarily. On survival, I camp areas where large numbers of the towers spawn, venturing out into adjoining rooms when the spawns aren't happening. On later levels, it's just best if everyone's on top of each other focus-firing the large mobs. I also really enjoy leaping into the middle of a huge swarm with Dual Zoren/Ichor and spamming the combos. Life Strike FTW :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)truelight4u Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I agree as long as you are within a reasonable distance to get back to the objective if things go south what's the harm? Having all four people bunched up is actually pretty ineffective since you'd be shooting at the same mods. Plus it's no fun I mean melee 2.0.. I like to move from area to area. If everyone is spread out then I stay closer to the pod just in case and pick things off with my rifle. If eveyrone at the pod I leave to a different vantage point just so long as your definition of 'reasonable distance' does not go past the XP sharing distance, or spread Enemies out across an enormous area. or being in rooms that at the current time will actually reduce Enemy Spawns. (big offender here is Grineer MD tile - standing in the center room while the side objectives are running reduces Enemy Spawns. don't believe me? well a short explanation, Enemy Spawns are heavily influenced by player LOS. if you are standing in a room, the 180° in front of you will not have Enemies spawn in it, unless they have shelter, such as behind a door. MD has few enough doors as it is, reducing the number of doors the Enemy can use will heavily affect the number of Enemies fought, and can make the difference between, say, getting 20 Oxium on Kappa, or 70+). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raikien Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) just so long as your definition of 'reasonable distance' does not go past the XP sharing distance, or spread Enemies out across an enormous area. or being in rooms that at the current time will actually reduce Enemy Spawns. (big offender here is Grineer MD tile - standing in the center room while the side objectives are running reduces Enemy Spawns. don't believe me? well a short explanation, Enemy Spawns are heavily influenced by player LOS. if you are standing in a room, the 180° in front of you will not have Enemies spawn in it, unless they have shelter, such as behind a door. MD has few enough doors as it is, reducing the number of doors the Enemy can use will heavily affect the number of Enemies fought, and can make the difference between, say, getting 20 Oxium on Kappa, or 70+). Honestly I have no idea how far the xp share distance is. I notice in surivival that everyone being in the same room the mobs tend now to spawn fast enough until everyone spreads out, at higher times when the spawns are too many for you to handle then the teams tends to bunch up and we mow em down together. In defense I tend to stay fairly close to the pod straying maybe 15 to 40m away to deal with spawns (I tend to use melee more then gunfire) but I stay near enough that I can fend off the pod if things go south. This whole argument seems more of a design problem then anything. Kind of insulting though when I load into a defense mission as the only one with leveled gear.. But I understand the resource part of it. Honestly I only ever ran em when I wanted mods. With survival I only run defense when I have to for alerts or map progression. XD never been insulted by the door heros I thought the whole point was the get to as high a wave as possible. I bet most don't even know what their doing is angering other players Edited April 24, 2014 by raikien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syle Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 burn him he admitted it he should be punished ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSp33d Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 when i was farming rhino and boltor, i never ever pursued the objectives in tower capture or MD... all i ever did was go for vaults, collecting box mods. it was a lot more fun racing the team than sitting on the objective with them. charging off to a far corner of the map set the mobs spawning everywhere, and they'd all race towards the objective. honestly, i didn't care about the group xp. there are far better ways to level weapons and frames than those 5 minute missions. i regret nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raikien Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 when i was farming rhino and boltor, i never ever pursued the objectives in tower capture or MD... all i ever did was go for vaults, collecting box mods. it was a lot more fun racing the team than sitting on the objective with them. charging off to a far corner of the map set the mobs spawning everywhere, and they'd all race towards the objective. honestly, i didn't care about the group xp. there are far better ways to level weapons and frames than those 5 minute missions. i regret nothing. I know right? I'm really kinda bummed out to find people are brining their unleveled crap to defense then *****ing that they didn't get affinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubbi Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Go away man. We don't want your kind here. *grabs torch and pitchfork* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) I know right? I'm really kinda bummed out to find people are brining their unleveled crap to defense then *****ing that they didn't get affinity. well, defense is a different story from MD... if people are not getting affinity in defense, they're doing something terribly wrong. they should probably take a step back and re-evaluate some of the choices they've made, think about what's brought them to this point in their lives. On the other hand, the mobs in MD may start out at a higher level than defense, but they never level to the point where they grant fantastic bonus XP, as they do in defense and survival. If ya want something leveled, go ask the Lone_Tenno_Operative with the 5-forma Amprex... https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/221083-amprex-is-like-the-opposite-of-phage/?p=2562351 Edited April 24, 2014 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)friedricetheman Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) There should be a button/option for hallway heroes, trolls, AFK player in the report player button. As of now, I group them all under the harassment category. Edited April 24, 2014 by (PS4)friedricetheman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReapsterPL Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Good thing you aknowlage it m8, but the matter remains the same. You get 4 things from me 1. a msg saying: pls no door heroes 2. a msg saying: NO DOOR HEROES 3. i will not rez you if you fall 4 i will stand there 1 meter away from the objective and watch the objective get shot to shyt (I farm mostly for materials and i don't lose those) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardorax Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 *Hands you my nikana* Only through Seppuku can you redeem yourself tenno YOU HAVE ASHRAMED YOUR FAMIRY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arxiun Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 This is my confession I cannot help it sometimes, I just... lose controll at times, all these players that are leagues better realizing that utilizing their ult in Moblie Defense's is the best answer..., I need something to do other than spamming my ult and sitting at the perfectly defended objective sometimes and I... I just gotta go into a well lit room nearby just out of the radius of their awe inspiring ults to... to kill things, I know its evil and bad and I regret every living second of it but it feels so good, I know I need help and to be a good boy and I'm sorry. Listen, we';ve all been there. As a frost, you have NO idea what its like just sitting there and waatching nova and her phage just stomp everything. It doesn't matter that you need exp, for you want kills, or to just go and grab the drops. If nova kills everyone, nobody sheds a tear because its all part of the plan. But if Frost goes and clears one, one tiny little side room: EVERYONE LOSES THEIR MINDS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Frost goes GET BACK ON THE CRYOPOD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalawantahr Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Are you still clean and sober today Sibarian? Did you stay clear of these doors and hallways? If you need someone to talk to I'm here all week. Stay clean brother :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord.Finster Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Your confession is accepted and your apology noted. Prepare yourself for 3 cycles of somatic reconditioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achromos Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Are you still clean and sober today Sibarian? Did you stay clear of these doors and hallways? If you need someone to talk to I'm here all week. Stay clean brother :) I... I did, but then i realized that I needed to level up my nova. (ι´Д`)ノ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPandemonium Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Sometimes going all the way out into a hallway actually helps because there are 50 or so enemies milling around out there lowering the overall spawn rate around the objective. Also, while you are out there more enemies will spawn nearer to the objective so everyone wins, but you have to do it quickly or overall exp gain will suffer. That being said, if you want EXP do dark sectors or ODD and stay the hell away from Kappa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernetix Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) By all means, run off into that hallway and mow the enemies down as you see fit. Just don't expect a revive if you find yourself in over your head (especially if i'm playing Loki/Valkyr, that way I can physically stop the team from leaving the terminal and picking you back up) Edited April 24, 2014 by Cybernetix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VorteX135 Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Taking an objective view, being honest in 'most' groups I do play along nicely but if people want to be so picky and controling... they could also go solo :/ This isn't picky and controlly. You are single-handedly decreasing the exp everyone in the group gets because you want to go kill something in a hallway. 4 people increases spawn rate, if you move out of the room, you impede spawning. If they were to go solo they would get much less exp. If you really have that big of an issue that you need to ruin the exp gainf for your group, YOU need to be playing solo as to not ruin the game for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawnrawn Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 This is why I really prefer interception missions, you are REQUIRED to move around rather than standing on one bloody spot pressing 4. (or 3 with Frost) But then again what do I know, I'm not a grindcore player heh. Seriously, Defence and mobile defence are my least favourite missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidSp33d Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 I... I did, but then i realized that I needed to level up my nova. (ι´Д`)ノ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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