Jin_Lightning Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 There's a big divide in the community about Prime frames being stronger than their normal counterparts, and I for one don't like the idea of one being stronger than the other. BUT...I have an idea that might please both sides. What if Primes had access to unique auras that only they could use? Things like a mix of health and energy recharge, but a little bit weaker than their stand-alone auras? Maybe mix melee dmg and weapon swap speed? These auras would obviously be team buffs as well. Primes get their special buffs, and the whole team can benefit from it! What do you guys think? -Jin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlurrE_Tempo Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I disagree with you there are so many reasons why people would not like this I can't even list them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angius Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Primes need to be stronger than regular frames. I mean, they are the original ones, our regular frames are just mere replicas. Primes are supposed to be better by definition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin_Lightning Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Primes need to be stronger than regular frames. I mean, they are the original ones, our regular frames are just mere replicas. Primes are supposed to be better by definition. I get that from a lore standpoint, but for gameplay I don't think it's a good idea. and if they do, what about the Excalibur players who missed out on Founder? I'm NOT saying re-release Founder in any way. Not opening that can again. But in that sense, if Primes DO become stronger than their normal counterparts, people who want to main Excalibur would be screwed. Now I can agree that Primes can be SIDEgrades, much like the helmet-style stats. Higher stats in one area, but less in another. -Jin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xlraistlx Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Primes used to be a forma less needed and shiny versions. I'd like they continue to be like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin_Lightning Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 Primes used to be a forma less needed and shiny versions. I'd like they continue to be like that. Exactly. And prestige. That's what Prime frames are: Prestige and bling.They shouldn't be flat out better. -Jin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidPunch Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Primes aren't strong. Rhino Prime has a speed buff and Excalibur, who you can't get anymore< has a shield recharge buff. They just have an extra polarity and difference design is all really. And it should stay like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiddlyMcGee Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 *cough* rhino prime and his 1.00 speed BS *cough* *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitras Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 I don't really get why people think it's such a horrible thing for prime frames to be better. What about the weapons? Not to be offensive, but come on. To me, that's like saying clantech weapons should be weaker but still require forma.And for OP... You say you don't want to make them better, yet you're making them better. Also, unless it added an effect they liked, let's say energy siphon with rejuvenation (just made that up, I don't care if it makes sense), players will still use the mod they were already using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin_Lightning Posted April 30, 2014 Author Share Posted April 30, 2014 I don't really get why people think it's such a horrible thing for prime frames to be better. What about the weapons? Not to be offensive, but come on. To me, that's like saying clantech weapons should be weaker but still require forma. And for OP... You say you don't want to make them better, yet you're making them better. Also, unless it added an effect they liked, let's say energy siphon with rejuvenation (just made that up, I don't care if it makes sense), players will still use the mod they were already using. I'm giving them a unique aura which the whole team benefits from. This is a coop game after all. I'm not a fan of the weapons being stronger than their normal counterparts either to be honest. But that's a different topic. -Jin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egregiousRac Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Primes aren't strong. Rhino Prime has a speed buff and Excalibur, who you can't get anymore< has a shield recharge buff. They just have an extra polarity and difference design is all really. And it should stay like that Yeah, the only reason that the community has a problem with RhiPri is that the speed buff stacks with Vanguard, making him tied for fastest in the game. I personally feel that with his kit it actually makes sense for him to be that fast, since he seems to be intended to get into peoples faces. Without that stacking though, an 11% buff is not very large but it still makes the prime version more attractive to the player. I think similar buffs should be on all the primes. Obligatory final statement: Frost needs a real prime. Literally all Frost Prime is is a new helmet, a recolor, and an extra polarity slot. All that was done to his texture was replacing non colorable white with gold. For comparison, a list of body changes: Frost: Nothing Excalibur:Significant texture changes Mag: Significant texture changes and minor model additions Ember: Significant texture changes and minor model changes Rhino: Significant texture changes and moderate model changes (including spinny thing) The quality change from Frost to Excalibur is enormous. Excalibur still loses all primeness with his Immortal skin, but at least he is more than just a head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jin_Lightning Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 Not exactly what I meant, but I agree nonetheless. Some of the older Primes could use a touch more gold. -Jin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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