rob578765 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Ember, low tier?? Have you put many hours into warframe?? Besides Antimatter drop, world on fire is he second strongest power in the game. Modded correctly , it still rapes enemies up to lvl 60 lol. Low tier?? MADMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty5 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 There are no bad frames only bad players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrno40 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 There are no bad frames only bad players Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikaponi Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 4 noobs activating the life supports at 90% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siekier Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Im my mind it would be Oberon, Ember, Hydroid and probably Volt Valkyr (she can run for support and revive but not much more... its hard to find 4 useless frames, damn it!) They have no damage to deal with enemies past level 40 and not enough CC or survivability. How long do you think such team would last? Valkyr "not enough survivability" Now that's funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuio678 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 T4 survival 4 Excals with Super Jump build. Everyone's loadout: Mk1 - Braton, Lato, Ceramic Dagger. Everyone's element is Gas. My reaction to your last suggestion: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate_Shark Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) Hua, guess you never seen my Valkyr. I can destroy up to 45 waves of enemies in a solo defense up to level 80's. The only reason I couldn't go higher is because the pod was near insta popped at that point. This was kind of old but I would crit with her between 8K-12K average to 35K with super crit's on these high level's. This was done before melee 2.0. She can do the same thing after melee 2.0 her crits however are more wild then before. As for just using dual ichors with life strike. Her damage can be extremely high. If she is so useless I have no idea how my 7 forma'ed god Tier Corrupted Nightmare Dark Valkyr could do it if she is such a bad Warframe. She kept a pod alive for 45 waves up to the level 80's by herself. The pod only being the limiting factor. I was 1 shotting most of them and some needed to be 2 shotted but she held up like a melee frame should. The only other frame I seen do this solo is Loki up to wave 50 but didn't know the level. At some point it is just not possible to go any higher because the frame is limited by the how much damage the pod can take. There are no bad Warfames... only bad Players! http://cloud-3.steam...0FF8259DCC3B5D/ http://cloud-3.steam...41D5799B117501/ Edited July 1, 2014 by Pirate_Shark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 Ember, low tier?? Have you put many hours into warframe?? Besides Antimatter drop, world on fire is he second strongest power in the game. Modded correctly , it still rapes enemies up to lvl 60 lol. Low tier?? MADMAN The DPS is so low WoF is not worth wasting time and energy at high levels. Max power mods (blindrage+ intense) Accelerant+WoF: http://i61.tinypic.com/ek2txl.jpg making it less ~3k dps (2-3 damage tics per second) on an armored target. And come on, Im out of "uselss" frames, 4 Oberons would be just too bad and no fun. Hua, guess you never seen my Valkyr. I can destroy up to 45 waves of enemies in a solo defense up to level 80's. The only reason I couldn't go higher is because the pod was near insta popped at that point. This was kind of old but I would crit with her between 8K-12K average to 35K with super crit's on these high level's. This was done before melee 2.0. She can do the same thing after melee 2.0 her crits however are more wild then before. As for just using dual ichors with life strike. Her damage can be extremely high. If she is so useless I have no idea how my 7 forma'ed god Tier Corrupted Nightmare Dark Valkyr could do it if she is such a bad Warframe. She kept a pod alive for 45 waves up to the level 80's by herself. The pod only being the limiting factor. I was 1 shotting most of them and some needed to be 2 shotted but she held up like a melee frame should. The only other frame I seen do this solo is Loki up to wave 50 but didn't know the level. At some point it is just not possible to go any higher because the frame is limited by the how much damage the pod can take. There are no bad Warfames... only bad Players! http://cloud-3.steam...0FF8259DCC3B5D/ http://cloud-3.steam...41D5799B117501/ Infested is easy mode, but I would like to see Valk go long at T4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Atroxium Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 As long as the player know what he is doing it's all fine. The opposite of that is you'r problem. But you have a point in the question made. Any frame without CC ability will struggle after a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdart Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 The frames aren't the threat, it's the obviously broken super weapons this game has available. You can strip down to nothing but some tricked out weapons and copter to avoid everything while one shotting all but the heaviest of enemies. It isn't the frames in this case, it's the weapons. Frames are irrelevant up to a certain point, it's the weapons that do most of the work the entire time, from the beginning til extraction. I'm looking at the people who use Brakk btw. That gun is just stupid. inb4 literally everyone defends their precious You know it's too good. Stop it. If it has to be a frame thing, just about any frame without their skills equipped will obviously be the worst. Skills are game changers and without any of them, all of the frames available will eventually hit a wall they can't pass without weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlouetteSK Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Worst team to be paired up with? AFK player, a newbie who activates LS ASAP, and the self-killing penta/ogris/angstrum player. The latter two need not be mutually exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticMoss Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 4 low ranked mags on a grineer map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH_PRIME Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 There IS no bad team and loadout, any properly reactor'd/cat'd and modded WF/weapon is viable, Survival is easy.Your worst enemy at 40 min Survival is your own boredom threshold and the game CRASHING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WERElektro Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Ash, Ash, Ash and Ash. ^this, I think. Or 4 Lokis. Basically every team that has one and the same frame x4. There should be 4 different roles played in survival (healing, dd... etc.). The more diversity, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SofeSNBR Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) There IS no bad team and loadout, any properly reactor'd/cat'd and modded WF/weapon is viable, Survival is easy. Your worst enemy at 40 min Survival is your own boredom threshold and the game CRASHING! ! Well if you put it that way... i agree. However for me boredom strikes after 20mins cuz rewards are so horrible, so bad it feels like i wasted just my time. Also valkyr weak? dude what stuff you smoke i want some of that! Edited July 1, 2014 by (PS4)SofeSNBR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)kiddplay13 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 There are no bad frames only bad players This is every Exterminate mission for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SlappyVEGAA Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 (edited) There are no bad frames only bad players I totally agree.....I went H.A.M. with 3 banshee's and I was a Nekros....those guys were going hard for those 48mins in survival......I didnt expect to survive that long with them..lol....its all about the player holding the controller...not the warframe...(((some what)))...lol Edited July 1, 2014 by (PS4)slapahorecords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creeperZface Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Oberon, Ember, Hydroid and probably Volt Valkyr you just mensioned a beast team ember - accelerant hydroid - low tier??? his abilities are not damage based. he has massive survivability and cc valkyr - run for life support and is basicly invincivle oberon - MEDIC!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)InstantOG Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Anything that can't take advantage of Pull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somedude1000 Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Nothing is useless when correctly modded tbh, but meh Godspeed :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 No one wants to play with unusual frames ( PM me if you are up for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 Valkyr is easily my most successful T 4 def frame When im at the pod its sure to survive The moment i leave it to the rest of my team they flunk the mission every single time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PachTrick Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Worst: Ember, Sayrn, Valkyr, Ash Lack CC Best: Loki, Frost, Vauban, Nova Loki and Nova spam 4; Frost and Vauban spam 3; Nothing may destroy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartumterek Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 The frames aren't the threat, it's the obviously broken super weapons this game has available. You can strip down to nothing but some tricked out weapons and copter to avoid everything while one shotting all but the heaviest of enemies. It isn't the frames in this case, it's the weapons. Frames are irrelevant up to a certain point, it's the weapons that do most of the work the entire time, from the beginning til extraction. I'm looking at the people who use Brakk btw. That gun is just stupid. inb4 literally everyone defends their precious You know it's too good. Stop it. If it has to be a frame thing, just about any frame without their skills equipped will obviously be the worst. Skills are game changers and without any of them, all of the frames available will eventually hit a wall they can't pass without weapons. Haven't seen a Brakk since like early march I think... ppl still use it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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