(PSN)Incognito_A13 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Having listened to DE_Steve during this last devstream, I think the thing that is most disappointing part of this is the over onerous cert process imposed by Sony. For a system supposedly designed for gamers, the cert process seems too strict. I don't think there are too many people who own ps4 that are going to care a great deal if some of the localization is missed and they certainly aren't going to blame Sony, especially for a game that cost them $0 to download. If they're that concerned about their brand and image, they can place a gigantic "AS-IS" disclaimer as part of the download and then let DE manage it. It seems stupid to me that Sony would reject a cert because of a missed localization tag as DE_Steve implied. I got the impression when the ps4 came out that the games like Warframe, War Thunder, Planetside 2, and other that had came out on the PC first would be more or less handled like the PC version instead of the Apple AppStore wall garden we have now. Not much we can do about it other than wait, but I also hope that Steve's desires to reward ps4 player's patience will be more than just talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)INFINITYWART Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I wonder if the bundling of breeding grounds and u14 have anything to do with the Perfect World deal? Seeing that our last update was submitted before that announcement. 40 days....hmmmmmmmmmmmm.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ProjectedNexus Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 (edited) As a player with multiple accounts across both platforms, one with 500+ hours, trust me, you want to wait. U14 has some awesome stuff in it, but it really needs refining. The near daily fixes help, but it's a hive of new bugs and issues. We in the PS4 world have it golden by comparison. Threats using Destiny or other games won't positively affect outcomes here. If you have WF love, you'll play, simple as that. It will be great, but I would prefer it be solid before it comes our way. They've improved things so much over the last 4+ months and this will be no different. With respect to PW.... Who can say. I hope for the best. Our voices have been heard so now it's out of our hands and we can only vote with our wallets. Edited August 1, 2014 by (PS4)ProjectedNexus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ew_Tux Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Threats using Destiny or other games won't positively affect outcomes here. There are no threats here, just simple facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ew_Tux Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Having listened to DE_Steve during this last devstream, I think the thing that is most disappointing part of this is the over onerous cert process imposed by Sony. For a system supposedly designed for gamers, the cert process seems too strict. I don't think there are too many people who own ps4 that are going to care a great deal if some of the localization is missed and they certainly aren't going to blame Sony, especially for a game that cost them $0 to download. If they're that concerned about their brand and image, they can place a gigantic "AS-IS" disclaimer as part of the download and then let DE manage it. It seems stupid to me that Sony would reject a cert because of a missed localization tag as DE_Steve implied. I got the impression when the ps4 came out that the games like Warframe, War Thunder, Planetside 2, and other that had came out on the PC first would be more or less handled like the PC version instead of the Apple AppStore wall garden we have now. Not much we can do about it other than wait, but I also hope that Steve's desires to reward ps4 player's patience will be more than just talk. The cert process is only part of the problem, and is in place to protect the users in this case, bugs on the PS4 could kill the console as seen in the past. I don't agree with Steve's comment: "Unfortunately PS4 is always going to be behind because of cert and localisation." As a developer, if you know that localisation is such an issue then make sure you get it right before submitted for cert. I understand that mistakes are being made however in such cases you could be extra vigilant and get it peer checked before submitting. He openly admitted that they had breeding ground near completion but did not submit: "I think the big mistake we made was getting Breeding Grounds very close to done on PS4, but then we saw all the massive changes being made in U14, and we made the wrong decision to hold off on Breeding Grounds until U14." Those massive changes would be add a big timeframe between updates (as seen), so why hold of on adding new content that people can enjoy while you work on this massive update. It makes no sense, specially if it is near completion. It has caused all this frustration amongst your players and has caused people to leave the game and many more to follow with some very good new titles coming when U14 is due. They made a decision and PS4 players are yet again suffering for it by having to wait yet again for new content. This is nothing new and is an ongoing debate which just keeps going in a circle where people blame Sony for the delay. I agree, the cert does delay it for a small bit, however what allot fail to understand is that in order to certify something it has to be submitted and THAT is in hand of DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SlyFox5679 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 i read that update 14 is on pc now in the works and was wonder when can PS4 players expect Update 14 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Kr0niK_VyBeZ Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 What a sad thread speak for yourselves I'll still be on warframe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)INFINITYWART Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 (edited) MY FRUSTRATION I have played Warframe since the PS4 launch. I have nothing left to grind for(except the hate,damn RNG) and farming prime gear to trade is becoming boring and not worth the time. I agree not sending Breeding grounds to cert was a huge mistake. It would have energized my play and fueled me till u14 , but............ All I'm saying is PS4 also has veterans, who look forward to events and updates to continue to enjoy the game. Edited August 2, 2014 by (PS4)INFINITYWART Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Hooligonzo Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 We going to get the Dendras armor set with the next update? A Corpus armor set is one of the few things I was hoping the dev team would put out, so I'm eager to grab that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)deathfrombelow5 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 The problem with this game is that it is being handled in a poor way. Keeping the ps4 warframe players would have involved releasing fresh content before the decent games for ps4 began to come out. The ps4 has not really had a lot of decent games so far. Diablo and Destiny are both great games that treat the Ps4 community well, something DE has failed to do. I enjoy warframe, but I'm not going to constantly play a game that gives frequent updates and exclusives to another system. As for the "you get a better version" argument- The game is in beta. If you play it and expect no bugs, than you have unrealistic expectations. We also don't get completely clean versions. The update before 13.7 had a bug that wouldn't allow you to play 2 consistent games with the same squad. This bug took until 13.7 to be fixed. Pc players get a lt of attention and relatively quick fixes for the bugs they experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)iBoiz Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Mid august update will be sent to cert to Sony, ~20 is when we will get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SlyFox5679 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Mid august update will be sent to cert to Sony, ~20 is when we will get it ah ok thank you very much for replying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)wmkep Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 To be honest I have pre ordered destiny and if something big does not hit for ps4 warfram before then and destiny is just as good I may never play this again I will though try to keep Tabs on the game for the off chance something good does happen Ps that's saying a lot seems how sense I got my ps4 this has been my main game and possible the only game I play as of now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Hooligonzo Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Update 14 can't take long enough for me. Not looking forward to the new UI or Tamagotchi Kubrows at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)starlyes Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 To be honest I have pre ordered destiny and if something big does not hit for ps4 warfram before then and destiny is just as good I may never play this again I will though try to keep Tabs on the game for the off chance something good does happen Ps that's saying a lot seems how sense I got my ps4 this has been my main game and possible the only game I play as of now My fear is a release close to destiny. I'm still going to try to juggle the games but if U14 releases mid Semptember..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)iProdigy99 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Lol just hope xbox doesn't come here kicking us a month back or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shadow_Of_Hunhow Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 They said they're not going to release any more platform-exclusive content. Care to show proof? Cause last I checked they said there will be more of the renown packs for PS4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)deathfrombelow5 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Honestly I am not sure if I will continue to play warframe come september. Destiny has playstation exclusives, instead of exclusives ps4 players will never have (warframe). DE needs to start treating ps4 players better if they expect to keep current ps4 players. The problems don't just come from a lack of exclusives and updates, but from a failure to adjust to the current circumstances. If its true that the length between updates really can't be shortened, then you need to help ease the wait with events (or something similar in the form of really cool alerts). Either shorten the length between updates and give us some of our own exclusives, or adjust to the current length and make pc exclusives (excluding founders of course) not exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Evan7899 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 The problem with this game is that it is being handled in a poor way. Keeping the ps4 warframe players would have involved releasing fresh content before the decent games for ps4 began to come out. The ps4 has not really had a lot of decent games so far. Diablo and Destiny are both great games that treat the Ps4 community well, something DE has failed to do. I enjoy warframe, but I'm not going to constantly play a game that gives frequent updates and exclusives to another system. As for the "you get a better version" argument- The game is in beta. If you play it and expect no bugs, than you have unrealistic expectations. We also don't get completely clean versions. The update before 13.7 had a bug that wouldn't allow you to play 2 consistent games with the same squad. This bug took until 13.7 to be fixed. Pc players get a lt of attention and relatively quick fixes for the bugs they experience. Well that's the way it is. We are the second platform and the least valued so we shouldn't expect much. There is sony's cert but that's hardly an excuse. Better games will come to PS4 soon with a better PS4 dev team, and a much better PS4 community. Just wait it out and get on the Far Cry 4 hype train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Goldengeartwo Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Ships? New weapons? Doges? Being mind-screwed by Vor? I really want to get my hands on the Venka and to be able to just admire the view from my cosy little ship. Having some extra booty- um I mean, Mirage in my collection would also be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Brako_El_Mostro Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Im looking forward for its arrival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Kubros and their pet food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ew_Tux Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Setting up the Christmas tree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Goldengeartwo Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Setting up the Christmas tree... So funny...yet so true...and yet so cruel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ew_Tux Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 So funny...yet so true...and yet so cruel... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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