CorrTerek Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Unless it's boring for only 1% of the playerbase I don't have access to user statistics, nor would they mean much in this particular case. I just call it as it is. Dev's job to make a fun and engaging game, not player's. Companies that blame their customers for their own failures don't last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transmorphic_Wyvern Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 inb4lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeduSalem Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I want you to name 1 online game that isn't repetitive Pretty much any strategy game or any games that actually require skill to beat the opponents rather than relying on doing the same mission a thousand times until you earned enough XP/levelups or had the luck to drop better items to overcome the virtual challenge being offered. So you name it. I've played a lot of shooter and strategy games from the early 90s and they are still less repetitive in online matches than what grindgames of this decade have to offer. This even incorporates pixel-mess like Classic Doom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeptimus Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) Pretty much any strategy game or any games that actually require skill to beat the opponents rather than relying on doing the same mission a thousand times until you earned enough XP/levelups or had the luck to drop better items to overcome the virtual challenge being offered. So you name it. I've played a lot of shooter and strategy games from the early 90s and they are still less repetitive in online matches than what grindgames of this decade have to offer. This even incorporates pixel-mess like Classic Doom. "doing the same mission a thousand times" There's your problem. Imagine playing the game that you mentioned with the same opponents and using the same strategies Edited November 4, 2014 by Zeptimus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WERElektro Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Well gz. It's already been said.... blablabla.. you'll need rep to buy stuff. Also... I do not understand why everyone's so eager to finish this asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direcyphre Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Well gz. It's already been said.... blablabla.. you'll need rep to buy stuff. Also... I do not understand why everyone's so eager to finish this asap. Because they are trying to see it like another update, rather than a core addition to gameplay. They all want the things they don't have and will stop at nothing to acquire them. Sadly, the perception of grinding is a subjective one. Whether or not you have access to the content in a 'reasonable amount of time' is irrelevant, because the purpose is to eventually provide additional rewards while sporting the sigil if your select Syndicate. In essense, this would have been a lot nicer if it was implemented a year ago, then all the complaints would have died down by now and people would be trading all the fancy new augment mods in the trade chat on a daily basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerogear5 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 The rep system is just a bad system currently it needs more then what is offered to "grind" since it takes far to long to even hit max rank and buy all the stuff for one faction. I think adding it to the invasion system and making it worth a ton of points would easily make invasions more popular and fix the grind issue. Another idea is allow us to give up stuff to the faction for a small point gain like mods, prime parts, resources, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simm Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Because they are trying to see it like another update, rather than a core addition to gameplay. They all want the things they don't have and will stop at nothing to acquire them. AND THEN... THE WORLD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chub_N_Tuck Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 (edited) I kept on saying this and people don't seem to get it. I'll keep it plain and simple. If u want to have fun, look for fun yourself, rather than repeating same missions and thinking Warframe is all about that. I still have fun playing at least one game in every tileset and switch up Warframe and weapons. People need to stop being so hung up on the rewards. Why do u feel so obligated to get them fast? Why rush things and make your gameplay experience garbage? Gameplay is still fun for me and if u don't want to grind, dont grind. Or if u still don't get what I mean by don't grind, play other games and come back. And on the blank sheet of paper being fun part... You can totally have fun with it drawing things, being creative. Why can't you improvise rather than thinking about what's given on the spot? Edited November 4, 2014 by GaiaNyix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willis936 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I kept on saying this and people don't seem to get it. I'll keep it plain and simple. If u want to have fun, look for fun yourself, rather than repeating same missions and thinking Warframe is all about that. I still have fun playing at least one game in every tileset and switch up Warframe and weapons. People need to stop being so hung up on the rewards. Why do u feel so obligated to get them fast? Why rush things and make your gameplay experience garbage? Gameplay is still fun for me and if u don't want to grind, dont grind. Or if u still don't get what I mean by don't grind, play other games and come back. And on the blank sheet of paper being fun part... You can totally have fun with it drawing things, being creative. Why can't you improvise rather than thinking about what's given on the spot? No! I need my fun handed to me on a silver, limited edition, day 1 DLC, CoD embossed platter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Jam Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 If the gameplay is pointless to you then it's no one's fault. If something isn't fun then it's not the dev's fault. You're the one making the pointless bashes about how you don't find the game itself fun. Other people have picked up other points that I would usually point out, but all in all- I'm not complaining about the game in any way, shape or form. I'm talking about syndicates, which is- if you remember- what this thread is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genji Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Well gz. It's already been said.... blablabla.. you'll need rep to buy stuff. Also... I do not understand why everyone's so eager to finish this asap. Not so much a rush to finish but it is a grind wall of massive proportion, even for people with everything finished & unlocked. DE should take another look at it .vs tossing Syndicates behind the grind of death. The daily alerts barely dent your standing. I really did not have a problem with the grind at all until they nerfed the tactics at Cerberus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkillo32 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 just get xp booster, a good xp farm map and you'll get like 2k a day if he got to max rank how do u think he got there? playing apollodorus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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