Dawn11715 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 "Number of terms" as in: x + y + z has three terms (which are x, y, z). xy + z has two terms (which are xy and z). oh, well than its right^^ just saw a0/an =...=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Dude! Actually, wow. This is the most thought-stimulating thread I have read today. As I had a moment of spare time (that's a lie, though) and I was interested in the problem (that's not a lie), I have thought a little bit about it and came up with a proof via induction. http://imgur.com/iYcuTkc So this relationship holds for all n in Z. Yay for maths, which is prettier than the Orokin Void. You forgot proving n = 1 is true. Without that, then assuming n = k is true is a rather big step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhrekr Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 You forgot proving n = 1 is true. Without that, then assuming n = k is true is a rather big step. Last paragraph, I did mention monomes (n=1, although there is no reason we couldn't start with n=0). I did claim it is trivial, and I stand by my claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Last paragraph, I did mention monomes (n=1, although there is no reason we couldn't start with n=0). I did claim it is trivial, and I stand by my claim. But you do prove it instead of stating that it is trivial. And the start of the set Z+ depends on different systems (and sometimes people). Some people start with 0, while others start with 1 (and to be honest, more and more people [and systems] are recognising the start of Z+ as 1). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djangofett Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 My brain hurts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhrekr Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 But you do prove it instead of stating that it is trivial. And the start of the set Z+ depends on different systems (and sometimes people). Some people start with 0, while others start with 1 (and to be honest, more and more people [and systems] are recognising the start of Z+ as 1). Trivial things should NEVER be proven if you are a physicist (as I am) or if you are very lazy (as I am as well). However, as you have demonstrated in your first post, n = 0, n = 1 and n = 2 are true. So the demonstration is complete. (Technically Z is not the set we are looking for. It is N, or N^0). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted November 6, 2014 Author Share Posted November 6, 2014 Trivial things should NEVER be proven if you are a physicist (as I am) or if you are very lazy (as I am as well). Not really. (Technically Z is not the set we are looking for. It is N, or N^0). I did define n as the elements of Z+, for one thing (I know it works for n = 0 already, but since Z+ = {1, 2, 3, 4, ...}, that means we first prove n = 1 is true). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhrekr Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Not really. You are adorable. Anyway, I'd like to thank you for the stimulating thought (and a little bit less for the nagging about not having repeated what you had already shown in your first post). Cheeryo old chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 You are adorable. Thing is, I am a mathematician, not a physicist. So, there is a need to prove things that are considered trivial. But I digress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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