Oranji Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I don't believe the frame nerfs had anything to do with Viver. Bad timing made this conspiracy theory possible. With all due respect I seriously hope your joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaBlade Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I don't believe the frame nerfs had anything to do with Viver. Bad timing made this conspiracy theory possible. Bad timing my &#!, they are doing changes all over this game. The nerf hammer IS the easy way out. I have items that i used plat to buy some cosmetic changes only to have them change the look of them......this has kinda irked me because I bought them for how they looked and not what they are now. Nuffed hammer = death of a games........hell make teams larger than four and make the npc scale with the skill set G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickZero Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I don't believe the frame nerfs had anything to do with Viver. Bad timing made this conspiracy theory possible. Take off the mod hat and put on a normal person's hat. 4 frames go into Viver and 4 frames get nerfed. A square peg in a square hole. BINGO. It perfectly fits. Coincidence nonsense doesn't. You sound completely irrational today Devoid. Modding stress?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehgreg Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I don't believe the frame nerfs had anything to do with Viver. Bad timing made this conspiracy theory possible. XDD Seriously. Do all moderators have to defend DE so much in order to keep their status? People start bragging that they get 50k reputation afking on INTERCEPTION mission using MAG, EXCALIBUR and TRINITY (occasionally LIMBO, yeah let's not forget about him as well). DE does not want people getting stuff too fast so they nerfed exactly the best tools for farming rep points. They don't want people to reach "end-game" too fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiouHotaru Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Mag was not nerfed, it was balanced to prevent her from blast enemies through walls with Shield Polarize. Excalibur's Ult, the most balanced ult in the game with virtually no drawbacks besides the damage being pure IPS, was altered to not make it OP. Trinity's Energy Vampire was changed to compensate for it's traditional "fire-and-forget" strategy of use. I agree that the timing with Viver was probably coincidental. These changes make sense to the powers in general, they were simply released now because circumstances allowed them to impliment such changes earlier than normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 thanks for tip! i am pimping ember now :-)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerevar22g Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 stop *@##$ing, all is fine, javelin now makes sense, limbo energy stacking was a bug, shame about mag tho, but no biggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Q--BigDaddyDring69 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 NO MATTER WHAT YOU NERF OR BUFF I WILL FIND A WAY XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raanaar Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I don't believe the frame nerfs had anything to do with Viver. Bad timing made this conspiracy theory possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanCeAlot Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Yesh,this thread again.People have spoken.But take the minor request for the solution.ouchhLoS coming to all frame ? - Day of Future Past A funny story:to stop fast driving on the road,all wheels are required to be removed. HAHA I guess, we still far to June 2035.That why DE make grind so high and demanding when syndicate rep introduce? Edited November 13, 2014 by LanCeAlot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehgreg Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Mag was not nerfed, it was balanced to prevent her from blast enemies through walls with Shield Polarize. Excalibur's Ult, the most balanced ult in the game with virtually no drawbacks besides the damage being pure IPS, was altered to not make it OP. Trinity's Energy Vampire was changed to compensate for it's traditional "fire-and-forget" strategy of use. I agree that the timing with Viver was probably coincidental. These changes make sense to the powers in general, they were simply released now because circumstances allowed them to impliment such changes earlier than normal. Following your logic the rest of the warframes are OP as well. Ash is OP, you are immortal for the duration of his ult and it is also fire-and-forget abilitiy. Ember is OP because you activate it and just move forward without doing anything. Hydroid's ult is OP because it can hit hard and throws enemies around. Mag's ult is OP because enemies can't shoot you while you are casting. Nyx is OP because she can become immortal for quite some time and then kill everybody in an instant. Oh, and she can make enemies ignore you giving you time to kill them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miyamojo Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 The testing of these abilities would take longer than Viver has been around. Since Excal's R Blind test for proof of concept, I've felt it was incoming. Yes because these changes were obviously intensively tested, well thought out and in no way a knee jerk reaction. That is why Mag cant replenish her own shields, which would have taken approximately ONE CAST of her ability to find out in QA. Please stop insulting the intelligence of your community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickZero Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I'm really surprised at some of the reactions I'm seeing. Coincidence? Meaningful Ability Changes? Balancing (by destroying the frames on the lower end of the spectrum)? Guess what? The next set of people who deny global warming are here! In Limbo's case it was a bug that made him useful for groups but was fixed. Awesome... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Q--Ascended-Seraphim Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 I'm really surprised at some of the reactions I'm seeing. Coincidence? Meaningful Ability Changes? Balancing (by destroying the frames on the lower end of the spectrum)? Guess what? The next set of people who deny global warming are here! In Limbo's case it was a bug that made him useful for groups but was fixed. Awesome... Just tried out a variety of game modes. Syndicate points are nerfed into the ground. Too much effort for little to no rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan-0-matic Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I don't believe the frame nerfs had anything to do with Viver. Bad timing made this conspiracy theory possible. You don't believe in climate change/ global warming either, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralArmchair Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 You don't believe in climate change/ global warming either, do you?The arguments refuting C02 driven man made climate change are far stronger than the arguments that the mag/trinity/excal nerfs are a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonRon Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 me me me you have been defeated again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulzscha Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 General Discussion isn't the place for feedback threads, please read and understand: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/318374-read-before-posting-threads-what-is-and-isnt-general-discussion/ Moved to the proper section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vash2pid Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Can't wait till Banshee's Sonar gets the LOS trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiceDead Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I don't believe the frame nerfs had anything to do with Viver. Bad timing made this conspiracy theory possible. I really hope this is true, but I am not holding my breath over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oranji Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 (edited) Can't wait till Banshee's Sonar gets the LOS trait. Hahahahaha ^ +1 Edited November 14, 2014 by Oranji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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