(PSN)SilverKarasu Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Our players may not be making any threads but our Region chat is disgusting to read. I hoped we would step up and save them all but Europa is already being celebrated as the first casualty with 29.9% health at 5h 33m at the time of post. I feel stupid now for thinking we'd be any better. I'll keep fighting though. No need to help it along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NedTyler Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 You can't save them all. Be sure to pay your respects to Kuiper as it falls. #RememberStrata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)tampa-db Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 DEstruction makes the illuminati happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Motive cK Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Xbox has yet allowed one to fall. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)WiiConquered Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 You can't be mad at other players for valuing other things over running these missions over and over. Especially when it's only to protect a relay that's exactly the same as the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_of_Grey Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 The predominate theory on PC is that it was scripted, and player action had no effect on the outcome. I am going to assume this applies to consoles as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)D4rk50ul-v2 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Incoming damage to Europa, it will survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chigawa Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Xbox has yet allowed one to fall. ^_^ Just wait until everyone has their Vandal (and sees the stats on it. Let's see if you'll still consider it worth the effort after that) and notice the drop in activity. Not to forget we needed 15 runs to get them, and reached a general consensus of 'let it burn' due to no time to prepare and much higher health in comparison. You can't be mad at other players for valuing other things over running these missions over and over. Especially when it's only to protect a relay that's exactly the same as the others. The missions barely give rewards, credit AND resource wise you're slowly burning through your reserves as they don't even get compensated. Not to forget grinding for isotopes and then having to run the missions again. After the first few fomorians I'd expect a lot of people to just get the points and forget about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)liljordabeat Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 We will save Europa plenty of time left, and region is full of trolls they wanted earth to burn, but we saved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xalev Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 The missions barely give rewards, credit AND resource wise you're slowly burning through your reserves as they don't even get compensated. Not to forget grinding for isotopes and then having to run the missions again. After the first few fomorians I'd expect a lot of people to just get the points and forget about it. *grumbles loudly about not getting enough runs* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Gray Silhouette Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Xbox is letting saturn fall. Our region chat is just as horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chigawa Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 *grumbles loudly about not getting enough runs* Not your fault, lad. Christmas was right there, spending time with family and life in general had us busy enough. And you're not missing out on the Vandal, all it has is a larger magazine and 5 or 10% extra status chance. Which barely adds anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric1738 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 not sure if everyone see the event trophy... it is a destroyed relay. believe or not, at least one relay will be destroyed on all platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)RedChili69 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 You can't be mad at other players for valuing other things over running these missions over and over. Especially when it's only to protect a relay that's exactly the same as the others. As of now they are all the same, but they won't all be the same forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)WiiConquered Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 As of now they are all the same, but they won't all be the same forever. PC lost four relays, and I doubt we're going to get that many special relays just for us. I'm sure DE has a plan to get the content they've worked on out whether we save the relays or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)PompousNinja156 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Xbox is letting saturn fall. Our region chat is just as horrible. This. I quit for the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SilverKarasu Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) You can't be mad at other players for valuing other things over running these missions over and over. Especially when it's only to protect a relay that's exactly the same as the others. They're only the same RIGHT NOW! If you've seen the Dev streams they have things planned for each of them. But no one has the ability to look past their noses so that doesn't cross anyone's mind. Or the common sense reasoning that, "Hey, Relays are a huge developer expense. They're probably going to play a big part in the game later. Saving them is probably a good thing." For me I just hate losing. Especially when winning is entirely possible. &!$$es me off seeing these things die like this. That's potential blowing up. Potential for the game up in smoke because people can't be bothers to run something a few more times than "strictly rewarded". Edited February 27, 2015 by (PS4)SilverKarasu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maou Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Its all prob scripted, though I do remember about the first fomorian attack were DE never expected us to win. I think they had to do a story check after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SilverKarasu Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 PC lost four relays, and I doubt we're going to get that many special relays just for us. I'm sure DE has a plan to get the content they've worked on out whether we save the relays or not. It's this sht right here that boils me the most. "DE wont actually cut us out of anything so there's no reason to do it." And if they do you'll all *@##$ about things not being fair and "DE should give us a chance to fix it" or "DE didn't tell us we'd lose out of good stuff like this." "You're alienating your playerbase DE! Don't make me leave this game for something I plainly said fck it too." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)WiiConquered Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 It's this sht right here that boils me the most. "DE wont actually cut us out of anything so there's no reason to do it." And if they do you'll all $#*(@ about things not being fair and "DE should give us a chance to fix it" or "DE didn't tell us we'd lose out of good stuff like this." "You're alienating your playerbase DE! Don't make me leave this game for something I plainly said fck it too." Try thinking about this from another perspective. I'll offer you mine: 1. The mission bores me. It's not bad, but after about ten runs in three days there's not really a lot to captivate me at this point--it's exactly the same. 2. I have no emotional connection to relays. There was no time for me to become attached to anything and no characters for me to care about. 3. Archwing is unrefined. Instead of feeling like a dogfight, it's just a bunch of tiny things shooting everywhere. 4. The relays all look the same. I'm going to lose something that has six exact replicas? Doesn't matter to me. 5. Relays are mostly pointless. Occasionally Baro shows up and asks me to grind more stuff for more powercreep (once I grind the cores to make that happen). I don't care about that. Medallions are the only thing I need to go to them for. 6. Real life: Europa's going to go down in the late night/early morning where I live. I'm not going to stay up for it, especially considering the five problems I already mentioned. You know what bothers me? That people think because they care about something (especially something that isn't real!) everyone should care about it. I'm fine with you trying to talk me into helping, but not with you trying to berate me because I'm not helping you save something that only exists in a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Toycammander666 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Just did 10 more on Europa i'm tryin my damnest lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakenbob Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Something console players have to consider about the PC Eyes of Blight is we were killing the Balors for 3-4 weeks, rather than the 1 1/2 you guys are set up for. A lot more died at the end because people just got tired of it. We saved all of the relays the first time around and it was on the second cycle that Earth fell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SilverKarasu Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) Try thinking about this from another perspective. I'll offer you mine: 1. The mission bores me. It's not bad, but after about ten runs in three days there's not really a lot to captivate me at this point--it's exactly the same. 2. I have no emotional connection to relays. There was no time for me to become attached to anything and no characters for me to care about. 3. Archwing is unrefined. Instead of feeling like a dogfight, it's just a bunch of tiny things shooting everywhere. 4. The relays all look the same. I'm going to lose something that has six exact replicas? Doesn't matter to me. 5. Relays are mostly pointless. Occasionally Baro shows up and asks me to grind more stuff for more powercreep (once I grind the cores to make that happen). I don't care about that. Medallions are the only thing I need to go to them for. 6. Real life: Europa's going to go down in the late night/early morning where I live. I'm not going to stay up for it, especially considering the five problems I already mentioned. You know what bothers me? That people think because they care about something (especially something that isn't real!) everyone should care about it. I'm fine with you trying to talk me into helping, but not with you trying to berate me because I'm not helping you save something that only exists in a game. It isn't as if I don't see the other perspectives. But the fact is that it's a global event. It isn't just something that affects only you or me. There are people who care whether they blow up or not. And like or not, it matters to them whether or not people run them. Europa could be saved in less than an hour or so if everyone one right now just ran it 1 more time. We see how fast it drops with a fomorian first shows up. But because people see it as pointless their going to lose content for not just them but everyone else including any new players who come later. Yea, it only exists in a game. But isn't the fact that it's something so simple to impact a reason to do so? It's not world hunger or racial disparity. It's 5-10min of your time past that 1 point on a meter. Is it not ok to get &!$$ed when even that is too much for people? And then to take it further to praise and justify it? I just ran it 9 more times before I posted this response. And yea, the grind is wearing on me. But only because I'm having to run it like this in order to try and save it. It shouldn't be like that. EDIT: But maybe your right. I should just accept it and watch them burn with everyone else. Clearly nothing is going to make any difference to anyone/ Edited February 27, 2015 by (PS4)SilverKarasu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)WiiConquered Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) It isn't as if I don't see the other perspectives. But the fact is that it's a global event. It isn't just something that affects only you or me. There are people who care whether they blow up or not. And like or not, it matters to them whether or not people run them. Europa could be saved in less than an hour or so if everyone one right now just ran it 1 more time. We see how fast it drops with a fomorian first shows up. But because people see it as pointless their going to lose content for not just them but everyone else including any new players who come later. Yea, it only exists in a game. But isn't the fact that it's something so simple to impact a reason to do so? It's not world hunger or racial disparity. It's 5-10min of your time past that 1 point on a meter. Is it not ok to get &!$$ed when even that is too much for people? And then to take it further to praise and justify it? I just ran it 9 more times before I posted this response. And yea, the grind is wearing on me. But only because I'm having to run it like this in order to try and save it. It shouldn't be like that. If I could spend my whole life fixing world hunger or building equality, I would've made a better world.If I spent five minutes running the relay, I would change nothing. There would be no new content, nothing else to experience, nothing. So sure, I spend less time, but that time's still wasted. Also, please explain what content we'll lose. The node? That's it. Oh, and it really doesn't have to be like that. You change nothing by saving the relay. Get yourself some sleep so you can still enjoy Archwing in a week. Edited February 27, 2015 by (PS4)WiiConquered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)booshthelurker Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) I'm part of the problem. I'll run each one 4-5 times and then I just can't anymore. I hate to say it but it's 50% lack of incentive and 50% RL disallows me from making too much of my gaming time intentionally un-fun. I accept my role in any fallen relays, but I'm not broken up about it. Edited February 27, 2015 by (PS4)booshthelurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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