Expanding The Quest System To All Warframes

[KoinDuo]

Just a thought, but wouldn't it be better if all the warframes were attainable through quests instead of mindless grinding over and over again by killing the same boss? And the quests to get these warframes can be unlocked through achievements. So a quest to get rhino would come across after you take maybe 2k damage to your hp, and then the lotus comes up and says she's discovered a new warframe. Or maybe after getting 250 stealth kills you get a quest saying there's a warframe that specialises in stealth kills(ash). or maybe after hacking and doing 25 full stealth/spy missions you get a quest for loki. Would this system be better than having to grind a particular boss over and over again just to get parts of a warframe you want? As an extension, the primed version of a warframe could also be achieved via a quest. Not sure if this will happen though, because prime access is a thing. But maybe make prime quests really long so that buying it straight up is a lot easier? And the quests for a prime warframe could pop up after you reach lvl 30 with the normal version 3x, so through use of formas. So in order to unlock loki prime, you would need to have a loki thats formaed 3x, and then you get the quest to get him. i think it eliminates all the rng involved in getting prime parts, and it could help remove some loot from the void which is already so diluted with prime parts. 

 

Short version:

Make all warframes unlockable through quests like chroma, and also the primed versions of warframes unlockable through quests as well after a certain requirement is met.

 

[Tymerc]

That'd be pretty cool.

 

I also hope that DE keeps their plans to bring back all past events in the form of quests for players to do.

[(PSN)Shaderow]

Agreed with this. Hoping this will actually happen in the future, would be much more interesting than grinding to get the parts. And warframes lore included in the quest could be great add. Like limbo had. 

[Easymac]

I like that idea. but only for future warframes.
for instance, these new warframes are coming out via quests, but some achievement warframes would be nice.
actually having to put time and effort into it rather then mindless grinding 1 boss.

[Easymac]

as for prime parts, they're changing the void. but no. i dont want to have to build forma to make my primes.
I rather just farm them. or do a quest.

[Renkai141]

Before that, I'd like if we were able to repeat those specific types of quest.

[Post_Scriptum]

Maybe for normal warframes, but idk about for prime warframes

Or at least

The 3x forma requirement doesnt seem like a good idea for me

Why must I forma my warframe three times?

There are some frames I havent even potatoed

But the ideas for getting warframes through quests(whether achievement-locked or not)

I'm not against it

My only problem with current quest system is I have to build the part to progress, so I cant 1. Build them later 2. Build all the parts at once

[(PSN)abelguerra]

Just a thought, but wouldn't it be better if all the warframes were attainable through quests instead of mindless grinding over and over again by killing the same boss? And the quests to get these warframes can be unlocked through achievements. So a quest to get rhino would come across after you take maybe 2k damage to your hp, and then the lotus comes up and says she's discovered a new warframe. Or maybe after getting 250 stealth kills you get a quest saying there's a warframe that specialises in stealth kills(ash). or maybe after hacking and doing 25 full stealth/spy missions you get a quest for loki. Would this system be better than having to grind a particular boss over and over again just to get parts of a warframe you want? As an extension, the primed version of a warframe could also be achieved via a quest. Not sure if this will happen though, because prime access is a thing. But maybe make prime quests really long so that buying it straight up is a lot easier? And the quests for a prime warframe could pop up after you reach lvl 30 with the normal version 3x, so through use of formas. So in order to unlock loki prime, you would need to have a loki thats formaed 3x, and then you get the quest to get him. i think it eliminates all the rng involved in getting prime parts, and it could help remove some loot from the void which is already so diluted with prime parts. 

Short version:

Make all warframes unlockable through quests like chroma, and also the primed versions of warframes unlockable through quests as well after a certain requirement is met.

You have a very good concept there I like the idea of putting all warframes of quests and they don't even have to create new bosses or tilesets just make it that the quest opens up to the boss in that planet which at the same time helps newbies open the star chart. For primes a bit too much there maybe we should just wait and see what their plan for eliminating the void is and finally I would totally love to be able to play old events as quests even if the rewards are not exactly the same.

[DrBorris]

I made a thread for Warframe quests awhile ago, I'll just copy and past the contents here. .

 

 

 

DE can easily make much more sense out of obtaining frames, remove RNG, and simplify the process for new players.

 

This is the basic plot line of doing a quest to obtain a Warframe…

You unlock a planet for the first time, after completing the first mission on that planet the lotus tells you that she has gotten intel of X Warframe being located on the planet.

After initiating the quest, the Lotus gives you a series of missions where you eventually obtain the chassis and helmet of a Warframe.

Then, the lotus tells you that the last piece (system) is being guarded by X boss and that you must defeat that boss in order to obtain it.

 

Here are some examples

Mag

You start the quest to obtain Mag after unlocking it on your first mission on mars.

(Interception) The lotus tells you that you need to do an interception (Augustus) to discover where the parts for Mag are.

(Exterminate) Her next instructions are that Mag’s helmet blueprint is being held deep within a corpus base and you need to exterminate the corpus to get to it.

(Sabotage) After that the lotus tells you that a corpus vessel is about to leave Mars with Mag’s chassis blueprint and you need to destroy its power core to prevent the ship from leaving mars.

(Defense) The next mission is to defend the chassis until reinforcements come to assist in extracting the chassis blueprint.

(Assassinate) Then Lotus tells you that Mag’s system blueprint can only be obtained by defeating Sgt. Nef Anyo (Mars’ boss).

Hydroid

You start the quest to obtain Hydroid after unlocking it on your first mission on Ceres.

(Defense) The lotus tells you that she has found an artifact that describes a lost Warframe design and that you must defend its location until reinforcements arrive to take it out.

(Rescue) A Tenno sympathizer who knows of the frames nature has been captured by Grineer, recue them.

(Keep in mind I do not know how Beacons are currently dropping, make adjustments where they seem fit)

(Random Missions) The Lotus tells you about the new fancy Councilor Vay Hek and how you need Beacons to find his location. Then she gives the spiel about the Prosecutors and how you need to kill them to get the Beacons and how they spawn on all areas of Ceres.

(Capture) Hydroid’s Helmet blueprint has been reported to be protected by some random Grineer, the Lotus tells you to capture that Grineer to get the blueprint.

(Hijack) (Because there needs to be some reason to have people use this game mode) The Lotus tells you that Hek is attempting to secretly create a Formian vessel and that you must hijack its core before it is too late.

(Deception/Spy) Hydroid’s Chassis is on a ship that is about to leave Ceres, stop the ship from doing so then steal the blueprint (A secondary objective… how fancy).

(Assassinate) Over the course of the missions, you have (hopefully) obtained enough Beacons to find Councilor Vay Hek (if not, the lotus tells you to keep hunting) and go on your way to beat Hek and get a guaranteed Systems Blueprint.

 

This would be pretty easy (I think) to put in the game, yes some new lines would have to be recorded for the Lotus, but that is just about it. No new assets, no new lore, just a logical way to obtain a Warframe.

 

Eventually, DE could go through the quests, add some lore, make the missions fit better with their frames yada yada (For example, the missions for obtaining Loki would be sneaky in nature (like if the alarms sound you automatically fail)). They could probably get Nyx, Oberon, Vauban, Volt, Banshee, and Zephyr eventually in. Just get a placeholder quest in for the time being that is very basic.

 

 

 

[Davoodoo]

Tbh at this point i prefer to run boss 3-6 times to get all blueprints needed instead of running 3 generic missions with 12h waiting time between each.

 

In my eyes quests increased waiting time with insignificant reduction in grind thus being more hassle than its worth. However if that were to change i would gladly accept such idea.

Edited April 26, 2015 by Davoodoo

[KoinDuo]

Tbh at this point i prefer to run boss 3-6 times to get all blueprints needed instead of running 3 generic missions with 12h waiting time between each.

 

In my eyes quests increased waiting time with insignificant reduction in grind thus being more hassle than its worth. However if that were to change i would gladly accept such idea.

maybe de could reduce the build times? they already hinted as such in the latest devstream. so maybe instead of 12 hours, it could be 6 or 4 hours instead, which seems a lot more reasonable. and my idea to unlock the prime warframes is simply by reaching lvl 30 with the unprimed version of the warframe itself, or fulfill a certain amount of requirments, like kill 100 enemies, or use your 1st ability 200 times, something like that. they're not good examples, but you get the idea. and to obtain the normal warframes like ash, there could be a prequisite achievement you need to get like getting 100 stealth kills, and to get loki you have to hack 50 consoles. it makes the game a lot more interesting and fun and gives you something else to do than mindlessly grind for items

[Lightsmith]

Eh. Considering how much of a pain quests are now I'm going to say no.

[Davoodoo]

maybe de could reduce the build times? they already hinted as such in the latest devstream. so maybe instead of 12 hours, it could be 6 or 4 hours instead, which seems a lot more reasonable. and my idea to unlock the prime warframes is simply by reaching lvl 30 with the unprimed version of the warframe itself, or fulfill a certain amount of requirments, like kill 100 enemies, or use your 1st ability 200 times, something like that. they're not good examples, but you get the idea. and to obtain the normal warframes like ash, there could be a prequisite achievement you need to get like getting 100 stealth kills, and to get loki you have to hack 50 consoles. it makes the game a lot more interesting and fun and gives you something else to do than mindlessly grind for items

If de indeed wants to fix it, i have a great idea.

 

Scrap crafting requirment on quests.

 

Done, 3 generic missions, 12h crafting time on parts, 72h on frame.