DecapitatingJim Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) So this is mostly console related. What I'm trying to do is to get my character headless. I've used the TIM command and gotten her decapitated, but for some reason the head keeps poofing back on. The neckwound is still visible though, see screenshots. She'll stay headless for about ~10 seconds after it happens, but it always appears back on. Enemies stay decapitated though when I off them, again see the screenshot. (Warning blood mod is enabled so if you're squeamish maybe don't look at it) Anyone have any ideas as to how I can make the headlessness stick? When I equip helmets it acts as if I don't have a head. Neck wound Bandit Helmet I'm not really sure of what to be looking at, I can't think of any mods that would be affecting this, and any that I did think of were disabled, head still re-appeared though. Edit: I'll post my load order too come to think of it. Edit 2: # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm Extra Encounters Reborn - Basic.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm hdtHighHeel.esm ImmersiveContent.esm Nock2Tip.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp VioLens.esp BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp KCEBattleClaws.esp Auto Unequip Ammo.esp AMatterOfTime.esp WKBendTime.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp Animated Dragon Wings.esp stranger_danger.esp IndividualizedShoutCooldowns.esp BFSEffects.esp NB-Scars.esp Extended UI.esp CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp NN_ArwenWBDresses.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp aod - fullplate.esp XCES.esp vwr Wet Eyes.esp Convenient Horses.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-6.esp BlackLaceMiniDress.esp Artifact Disenchanting - Dragonborn.esp Fudou Myouou.esp AHZmoreHUD.esp E0PortableEnchantingAndAlchemy.esp Ebony Mage Armor.esp UnlimitedBookshelves.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp NewVampChainsGloves.esp IridumEyes2.0.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Footprints.esp SinbloodLethalMajesty.esp KCEYukata.esp GhostRing.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp HearthFire Display Case Fix.esp Blacksmithforge water fix HF.esp SplashofRain.esp ImmersiveSpells.esp FireAndIceOverhaul.esp DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Merta Assassin Tattoos.esp DragonAspectunblocker.esp NewVampChainsCuirass.esp QuieterDogs.esp Real Roads.esp female mannequins.esp SkyUI.esp More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Powered Edition.esp More Draconic Dragon Aspect - Wings and Tail.esp DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp Skyrim Radioactive.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp ImmersiveContentExteriorLighting.esp 3DNPC.esp Book Covers Skyrim.esp YuiH StandAlone Follower - Eva.esp Undeath.esp iActivate.esp Artifact Disenchanting.esp Dwemer Spectres Legendary.esp FormsEdit.esp BlackSacramentDBReplacer.esp citiesvillagesupgraded.esp Mrissi.esp FrostvaleEstate.esp rk_Followers.esp Dogs-of-Skyrim.esp Better Vampires.esp Predator Vision.esp JKs Whiterun.esp Run For Your Lives.esp Point The Way.esp HeljarchenFarm.esp Nock2Tip.esp WindstadMine.esp awoken_beta.esp BF.esp WSCO - OcciFemaleVNL.esp WSCO - OcciMaleVNL.esp Sophia_follower.esp Soul Gems Differ.esp Supreme Storms.esp TDNEquipableHorns.esp UnrestrictedConjuration.esp WSCO - Better NPCs.esp BVFE_Serana.esp WetandCold.esp fallentreebridges.esp Everfall Island -no wizards.esp SMIM-Merged-All.esp Extra Encounters Reborn - CSP.esp Immersive Patrols II.esp CinematicFireFX.esp Signs_of_Skyrim.esp female mannequins in homes.esp vampirehunterd.esp zMirai.esp Purewaters.esp BatTravel.esp dragons attack to the cities.esp Vampirelordroyal.esp Glowtastic.esp CWIDawnDragonPatch.esp JBS_banking_redux.esp Artifact Disenchanting - Dawnguard.esp ScopedBows.esp N2T Scoped Bows.esp Lamae.esp Chaconne.esp FastTravelLocationsNVND1.1.esp Blacksmithforge water fix DB.esp Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla.esp Faction Crossbows.esp Blacksmithforge water fix DG.esp Merta Assassin Armor.esp SkinnyDipping.esp Osare Maid Outfit.esp Hanali.esp BooksOfSkyrim.esp TST_Annerose.esp Gildergreen Regrown.esp FNISspells.esp OMageStandalonePack.esp BlackSacramentArmor.esp TwinSildaril.esp bm_SimpleAction.esp apocalyoriginalpse.esp apocalypse.esp Draconic Bloodline.esp Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp MirielleFollower.esp PowerOfTheGods.esp ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp KathFollower.esp Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp ApachiiHelmetWigs.esp Emfy Cleric Robes.esp Toccata.esp LustmordVampireArmor.esp spelltomeconjureetherealhorse.esp Conjure Ridable Ethereal Horse Patch.esp The Secret Room of Breezehome (En).esp SKY_Dryads.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp RaceMenu.esp <- Was disabled for testing. RaceMenuPlugin.esp <- Was disabled for testing. wgwarpaint2p0.esp RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - UNP.esp <- Was disabled for testing. KJ Tattoos 4K.esp RSChildren - Complete.esp RSChildren_PatchStrangerDanger.esp Edited June 24, 2015 by DecapitatingJim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyborg-Rox Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 I thought I could answer this. Turns out you need a console corrupter more than a Skyrim gamer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhundis Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 All those mods and no Unofficial Skyrim patches at all. You sadden me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaokasalis Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Nope. Sorry, i dunno whats causing that. Just dont lose your head over this, sometimes the console can be a headache to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miginimana Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 How much have you played with all those mods on? My game eventually crashes when i have that many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillbrookWest Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Racemenu installs a file called NIOverride. This usually causes crashes when the head is removed (ie your character gets decapitated in game). Since you're running with racemenu disabled, try moving NIOverride to the desktop and try again. Outside that, i would guess perhaps one of your Vampire mods could cause an issue. Switch to another race via 'showracemenu' and try to get the......thing.....you're trying to do to stick. There isn't already a mod for what you're trying to do? There normally is a mod for everything lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecapitatingJim Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) All those mods and no Unofficial Skyrim patches at all. You sadden me. They were conflicting with a lot of my mods. How much have you played with all those mods on? My game eventually crashes when i have that many. Just shy of 300 hours. I had more running, I used to have somewhere around 250. Racemenu installs a file called NIOverride. This usually causes crashes when the head is removed (ie your character gets decapitated in game). Since you're running with racemenu disabled, try moving NIOverride to the desktop and try again. Outside that, i would guess perhaps one of your Vampire mods could cause an issue. Switch to another race via 'showracemenu' and try to get the......thing.....you're trying to do to stick. There isn't already a mod for what you're trying to do? There normally is a mod for everything lol I have tried with editing the NIO file, and Racemenu off like you said. I've also tried changing race to Nord, Breton and Vampire nord/Breton, still nothin. I'll give the vampire mods a look at though, hope it isn't those... And I didn't actually find anything for that, I found mostly stuff for helmets n S#&$. At the moment I'm using the Headless horseman armor which removes my head, but I want to get rid of the actual thing so I can equip different armors, hence my attempt to decapitate my character. Just out of curiosity, what vampire mod/s were you thinking that would be causing issues? Edited June 24, 2015 by DecapitatingJim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillbrookWest Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 They were conflicting with a lot of my mods. Just shy of 300 hours. I had more running, I used to have somewhere around 250. I have tried with editing the NIO file, and Racemenu off like you said. I've also tried changing race to Nord, Breton and Vampire nord/Breton, still nothin. I'll give the vampire mods a look at though, hope it isn't those... And I didn't actually find anything for that, I found mostly stuff for helmets n S#&$. At the moment I'm using the Headless horseman armor which removes my head, but I want to get rid of the actual thing so I can equip different armors, hence my attempt to decapitate my character. Just out of curiosity, what vampire mod/s were you thinking that would be causing issues? I do know that DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp is a mod that makes updates to your vampire head. Your 'head' doesn't actually get decapitated in Skyrim. Skyrim just siwtches the head mesh for the decapitated mesh...If the mod calls for a mesh/effect update on your head, you may end up with what you have there where the mod update clashes with the gore update. I would try without mods that change your appearance...Just to check and be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecapitatingJim Posted June 24, 2015 Author Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) I do know that DVA - Dynamic Vampire Appearance.esp is a mod that makes updates to your vampire head. Your 'head' doesn't actually get decapitated in Skyrim. Skyrim just siwtches the head mesh for the decapitated mesh...If the mod calls for a mesh/effect update on your head, you may end up with what you have there where the mod update clashes with the gore update. I would try without mods that change your appearance...Just to check and be sure. Hehe just tried to launch Skyrim without any mods, didn't even make it to the loading screen. I'll give that shot now and edit in my result. Edit: So far so good. It worked fine with Race and Dynamic off. When I re-eneabled them the head came back. I'll try de-vampire my character then lop it off and see if it sticks. Edit 2: Okay so here's what happened Firstly it worked without Dynamic vampire on, However, it broke a couple animations, the only way I found to fix this was to change race which sadly brought the head back. even when swapping back to high elf. The only other thing is, the head is back when I reload a save and wont go away. Edit: So I sorta figured it out. it's one, or all of these mods CBBE + DVA + WSCO + Racemenu Once those are off it works peachy. However, I aint gonna be using that, cuz I don't want my characters to look like 100 year old women walking about. So thanks very much for the help, really appreciate it. If you can think of any other way I can get my character headless I'd be very happy to hear it though. Right now I'm using Headless horsemans armor, which does it by taking up all the head slots with a blank texture. Only thing I can think of is a mod that puts in a blank helmet or something. Similar to the Horseman armor but tied to helmet instead of armor so I can wear whatever armor I want without affecting it. But I don't really know of any mods that do that so yeah :| Edited June 24, 2015 by DecapitatingJim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhundis Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 CBBE has given me a lot of headaches in the past with shader issues, and I just remembered something similar happening to me. Although an accident I was playing in no death mode and got beheaded but I only stayed that way till I fast traveled and my head reloaded with the neck wound you described before. The only mods I was running at the time were CBBE and USP 1,2, & 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DecapitatingJim Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 Apparently being eternally decapitated is a common thing with the TIM command. I like CBBE though, that with high res skin textures looks awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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