----Fenrir---- Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Mesa's damage output can be buffed by around 500-600%. All you need is Mirage with "Total Eclipse" and Frost who is probably there anyway to have that augment mod for his first ability. Mirage will add a ~400% damage bonus while Frosts adds around ~200% cold damage on top of that. And with 600% more damage the broken "AFK-Turret" can go on almost forever before the damage drops off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudman88 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 How is it afk turret? two guys need to keep buffing every 30 secs, 1 guy need to hold left click. Unless you use key binding. whats the difference if 4 nukers, speed nova, frost, limbo and ( any other large aoe nuker) do the same thing on every 30 secs? Is jsut different combination and how you play it. I think this haters just fail to get mesa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
----Fenrir---- Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 How is it afk turret? two guys need to keep buffing every 30 secs, 1 guy need to hold left click. Just stick some band-aid on the mouse button and you can literally go afk while the turret will keep going by itself. And all Frost and Mirage have to do is re-cast the buff every +40 seconds. Well, poor Frost at least has to work a little since he needs to aim his buff at Mesa^^ Can you really call that playing? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I wish you could move with Mesa peacemaker - :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ShapelessHorr0r Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Mesa is pure CC, and that is why she is balanced. Banshee, for example, deals less damage but she staggers the enemies as well. The OP is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneu Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Mesa is pure CC, and that is why she is balanced. Banshee, for example, deals less damage but she staggers the enemies as well. The OP is correct. Mesa is pure CC? Can I get some of what you're smoking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
----Fenrir---- Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Mesa is pure CC? Can I get some of what you're smoking? Well, the most effective way to control a crowd is to just kill them all^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ShapelessHorr0r Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Well, the most effective way to control a crowd is to just kill them all^^My bad of courseMesa is pure "DPS" and therefore lacks "CC." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrsrkr Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 Lol no. Banshee could literally afk with no player input required at all; if using Vauban instead of Banshee, Vauban pressed 3 every 35-40s. Frost pressed 3 every 3s and Loki pressed 4 about every 5. Mag or Nova pressed 2 when enemies piled up on the edge of Sound Quake, Nova had to shoot the AMD once to charge it. Everyone sat there looking at the pod except Nova, everything died. Sound familiar? Almost exactly the same thing as Mesa/Gmag/Frost/Mirage, just a bit slower. People act like this is a new thing. Sound quake also needs a change, but Banshee is in a really weird place right now. Even so, it doesn't have the range or damage of PM, and is more for CC. IIRC Antimatter drop got a nerf because of that. Even if it didn't, Bastille and Vortex have an enemy cap now, and this setup would go a lot faster if you simply shot the guy. Even if none of that is true and I'm wrong on both counts, if it was bad then, why would it be good now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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