OkniolasPrime Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) Alright, all you "bring back gmag!" people, this is for you And now, that out of the way... You really don't need to be a rocket scientist to notice, that is ALLOT OF DAMAGE. "But Mag is only useful against corpus!!" And there I'l say WRONG. You know these guys? http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Corrupted_Crewman http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Corrupted_MOA http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Orokin_Drone You do? Great! You also know what these guys have in common? SHIELDS. And you know what those do? They explode, dealing AOE damage around the shielded enemy. And did I mention? The amount of shields SCALE with the enemy level, know what else scales? Mag's shield polarize. Edited July 10, 2015 by Renan.Ruivo Removed implied profanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tveeggad Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 REMOVE THIS! Let them believe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROzeKToR Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 BOO YAH TELL 'EM BOY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkniolasPrime Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 I'l probably need this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyrakav Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) Let's not talk about Mag Posts about Mag make me sad :( Edited July 10, 2015 by Nyrakav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UndeadGhostWarrior Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Let's not talk about Mag Posts about Mag make me sad :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjamander Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) as a ex mag user, shield polarize is not that great (even with blind rage / transient fortitude / intensify. I think op is trying to start a flamewar but I could be wrong, regardless, here is my opinion about mag. mag pull: I still miss the v2, the one that allow you to pull a single target (including a player). Now is a someone decent at grown control shield polarize : could have the potential to save a cryopo but it only have 500 shield that will get shred fast, best corpus nuke ability (other warframe will beat her against other enemy), can save teammate in trouble if they are in gange bullet attractor: once encourage teamwork in a coop game, until excalibur radial javelin was remake =/ )now Excalibur is fine as is) use to be one of the most hated ability because is possible to troll with boss that require a specific spot to aim. Glaive can still be use as a radial javelin replacement. Crush :another corpus killer move in competition with shield polarize mix with a bit of pull CC, I rather save my energy and don't use this move unless I need a 360 area CC? Edited July 10, 2015 by Ninjamander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-InV-igo95862 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Infested and Grineer have no shields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)revesburger Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) Mag is the best at Corpus defense or survival missions. Shield Polarizer is awesome! Edit: bullet attractor + glaive can be deadly against some bosses too Edited July 10, 2015 by (PS4)revesburger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightmare047 Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 'bout time someone said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkniolasPrime Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 as a ex mag user, shield polarize is not that great (even with blind rage / transient fortitude / intensify. I think op is trying to start a flamewar but I could be wrong, regardless, here is my opinion about mag. mag pull: I still miss the v2, the one that allow you to pull a single target (including a player). Now is a someone decent at grown control shield polarize : could have the potential to save a cryopo but it only have 500 shield that will get shred fast, best corpus nuke ability (other warframe will beat her against other enemy), can save teammate in trouble if they are in gange bullet attractor: once encourage teamwork in a coop game, until excalibur radial javelin was remake =/ )now Excalibur is fine as is) use to be one of the most hated ability because is possible to troll with boss that require a specific spot to aim. Crush :another corpus killer move in competition with shield polarize mix with a bit of pull CC, I rather save my energy and don't use this move unless I need a 360 area CC? Flamewar? No no no no. Pull: Yes, it is an great ability for cc Shield polarize: Yes, a great corpus nuke(and void, one shielded enemy does the trick) Bullet attractor: is surely little bit lackluster, but even it does have SOME uses. Crush: Situational, but useful when you have no time to kill, the 360 knockdown is nice addition to the kit. Infested and Grineer have no shields. True, but, since most of the framing happens in the void, that is a small annoyance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkniolasPrime Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) Hopefully the sentinels in U17 will have shields , Mag OP OP. sentients* Edited July 10, 2015 by okinolas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjamander Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I still believe mag need a rework because she do seem to be...lack-buster... but agree with op for one thing, she is not useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marthrym Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Flamebait thread detected. Please close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkniolasPrime Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 Flamebait thread detected. Please close. Posting this on the thread has no effect, there is a "report" button in the post's for a reason, if you think the thread violates the forum rules or is otherwise inappropriate, the button is there for you to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Scissor- Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 wow 1 ability. its @(*()$ nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)revesburger Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I still believe mag need a rework because she do seem to be...lack-buster... but agree with op for one thing, she is not useless. They actually did some rework on crush a few updates ago. Before, it was only one tick for damage. Now is 3 ticks and enemies that enter the range mid cast also get hit by crush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkniolasPrime Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) wow 1 ability. its @(*()$ nothing Ehh, one ability that deals more dmg than any other warframe... And not every ability needs to deal damage, Mag's well balanced between utility and damage: Shield restore/ very strong directional CC, and then comes the scaling damage. Edited July 10, 2015 by okinolas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaFragolino Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 You know there's something wrong when a MR18 tells you that Mag without Greedy Pull is useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latronico Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Wow so stronk. Very deadly. You're right. Mag is great at killing low level [shielded] enemies. Like... anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaFragolino Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Wow so stronk. Very deadly. You're right. Mag is great at killing low level [shielded] enemies. Like... anyone else? She's great at killing high level enemies that are nearby other high level shielded enemies, like nobody else. She also restores everyone's shields when they're in range, pods included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OkniolasPrime Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 -snip- Ehh, you're wrong there. let's take for example, a corrupted crewman of level 65 (as high as I could get it on simulacrum) has over 3000 shields (let's use that value for the sake of this) -cough- Alright. un-modded mag has 250.0% damage multiplier of enemy shields, so its really simple 3000x2.5 (100%=1) =7500 Thats not that impressive, alright, I get it. But, you know what, lets make it 710.0%.... 3000x7.1=21.300 So, there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lickity-Split Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) Okay for the sake of Clarity I'm going to let you in on a little secret here... They Mean she's Useless to them because they already have other frames that can do everything she can do now... Her 1 special thing was removed. Anything she can do there are other frames that can already do it... Mag has fallen into the "Mediocre at best" category and the only reason she's getting all this attention at the moment is because of the changes to her... Come back in a couple months time. Also GPull and Mesa were never required for standing still... Heres how you do it now without Moving more than 3 steps guys... Nova, Saryn, Frost or Vauban, Nekros -> Find a little passagway with 2 doors -> Fortify with Frost or Vauban -> Spam Nova/Saryn -> Spam Nekros -> Carrier picks up everything at the doors or Vaubans Vortex sucks it all up. We done 40 Waves with the greatest of Ease without Moving... Almost at all except to remove the XP debuff. Inb4 "Nerf Passageways"... People Cried about GPull/Mesa here for nothing. For Defense, Loki, Frost with Bubble Aug, Saryn, Nova (Replace Nova with something else if you like). Loki Spams Disarm in 4 directions (Enemies now run to you), Frost Fortifies with a Massive bubble that freezes enemies, Saryn/Other Frame spam abilities. Congrats, you are now doing Tower Defense without Moving. (You can add Radioactive Disarm here for added Hilarity) Mesa is only good for clearing out those first 20-25 waves quickly, you would've done it anyways... Its just quicker now, after that you still need a decent group to pwn Nullifiers & Bombards quick quick. GPull was nice for Co-Op but certainly not required to complete missions while standing still. Don't like Intercept unless I'm on an Archwing, people can do what they like there... Favorite Game Mode was Excavation... Havnt tried it since they added the Survival Spawn to it. Edited July 10, 2015 by Lickity-Split Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coryphaus Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I use my Mag Prime with Dragon Nikana. I feel like a Magneto that holds people still and KILLS THEM WITH SWORDS. Wow so stronk. Very deadly. You're right. Mag is great at killing low level [shielded] enemies. Like... anyone else? Wow. Much cute. So wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaFragolino Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 -snip- The only frame that can deal as much damage in the void in such a large range is Mesa, how's that "mediocre at best"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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