Ember (Prime) Any Good?

[DoritosandDewGG]

I just finished building her and all I ever hear is people bash it, was just wandering what her strengths are and if she can do long runs in T4 and still be effective. I know she has alright CC but that's about it.

[Bizzaro21]

not in t4, no, she is not endgame, she is just fun to use and a good CC with firequake augment, add full range, effeceincy and duration on her and boom, u got a walking massive AoE knockdown

[rechot]

until she gets a good buff no

[RadioLarity]

No long T4 runs.
She's paper and her abilities can't fix it unlike in other frames.
Augments, even if they were any good, they don't fit into any build.

Edited September 12, 2015 by RadioLarity

[Omega-Shadowblade]

Combine her with a corrosive build and you can strip enemies of their armor boosting her ability damage in the process slap em with accelerant and set em ablaze.

[bejuizb]

She doesn't do too well later into the game, but the problem is mostly the fire damage. A fortunate thing is that Accelerant boosts the damage of 3 of her abilities to a very high level. I'd suggest trying her out, without letting prejudiced feedback getting to you and tainting your experience. Maybe you'll enjoy her. 

[--MZez--]

she is good with aug mods. without it she isnt that good

[6KIRA9]

unless you have a vampire trin near you and you cast accelerant every 5 secs while keeping World on Fire with it's augment on all the time you wouldn't do a lot of good with her at higher lvls, and even that won't help you at long T4 missions, still she is fun to use, specially with ignis + accelerant <3

[(PSN)GiantChoco]

Ahh people just can't use her right :/

[Darzk]

Ahh people just can't use her right :/

This.

 

Shes one of the better frames for both group and solo play, but she doesn't make anything 'EZ Mode'. Her toolkit includes a plethora of 'soft' CC - knockdowns, knockbacks, animation stuns and fire procs - and her ability damage output is right up there with the best of the damage frames.

 

Admittedly, her fire damage is fully reduced by armor, but this can be mitigated with a high Corrosive proc weapon and eliminated with 4x CP, as most longer T4 groups will use. However, the further you go in long missions the less the added damage component of her toolkit is beneficial, and the more she's less ideal than a pure-cc frame.

 

One of the long missions she shines in is Defense - A Fire Frenzy build can amplify teammate damage by as much as ~21x (making her one of the best Mesa-buff frames) but it admittedly does require some skill and patience to buff teammates with, as the buff isn't hitscan or targeted. The knockback from Fire Blast helps keep the near-zone (usually a Frost bubble) clear of enemies, and her World on Fire adds a significant amount of damage when boosted with Accelerant and 4x CP. Personally, I find her to be the ideal 4th in a team with Frost+Loki+Mesa.

 

I'd say shes an ideal frame choice for medium length missions, maybe around 45-60 minutes. Beyond that you start having to bring the handful of 'god-teir cc' frames.

[Epicagemo]

You can't min max her as well as certain other frames. She gets outclassed by Frames like banshee and mirage, but know this-banshee and ember fire blast is a pretty deadly combo-then again, Equinox is better than ember in terms of synergy with banshee.

Her only real crutch is her world in fire honestly- as majority of players build around this. She doesn't do infinity well, because she's damage based, but she does about 90% of the game fine.

As for a insight on how effective or decent she is: I got a solo ember to 45 and could've gone further if there were enough mobs for a solo player.

[Omnimorph]

Her "uselessness" in T4 is greatly exaggerated - she's perfectly fine up to 40/40 and even quite a bit beyond if you are good with her.  Listen to Darzk, he knows the score (on most things in Warframe, actually).

 

Also: she's hella fun to play.

Edited September 12, 2015 by Omnimorph

[OniGanon]

People keep saying Ember can't do damage in T4, but that's a load of garbage.

 

Ember can kill a Lv80 Corrupted Lancer under Accelerant debuff with a single Fireball.

 

That's Raid level, or 60 minutes into endless T4, without CP or anyone's help.

 

Not that it really matters, because the real damage comes from using Accelerant with Heat modded guns to annihilate entire crowds

[(PSN)DesecratedFlame]

She is trash tier in terms of effectiveness, but she looks awesome.

[(PSN)OMGITSNUKERXD]

She is OK.She is just not as good as all the other frames.