LightstealKnight Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Current Health 125 base 375 at 30 Current Armor 175 Previous Health 150 base 450 at 30 Previous Armor 155 At level 30 with no mods Current Effective Health = 375*(1+175/300) = 594 Old Effective Health = 450*(1+155/300) = 682.5 Nerf % = (1-594/683)*100 = 13.0% At level 30 with Maxed Vitality Current Health = 125*(1+4.4) + (375-125) = 925 Old Health = 150*(1+4.4) + (450-150) = 1110 Current Effective Health = 925*(1.583333) = 1465 Old Effective Health = 1110*(1.51666) = 1684 Nerf % = (1-1465/1684)*100 = 13.0% At level 30 with Steel Fiber Current Armor = 175*2.1 = 367.5 Old Armor = 155*2.1 = 325.5 Current Effective Health = 375*(1+367.5/300) = 834 Old Effective Health = 450*(1+325.5/300) = 938 Nerf % = (1-834/938)*100 = 11.1% At level 30 with Vitality and Steel Fiber Current Effective Health = 925*(2.225) = 2058 Old Effective Health = 1110*(2.085) = 2314 Nerf % = (1-2058/2314)*100 = 11.1% At level 30 with Steel Fiber and Armored Agility Current Armor = 175*(1+1.1+0.45) = 446.25 Old Armor = 155*(2.55) = 395.25 Current Effective Health = 375*(2.4875) = 933 Old Effective Health = 450*(2.3175) = 1043 Nerf % = (1-933/1043)*100 = 10.5% At level 30 with Vitality(440%) and Vigor(120%) Current Health = 1075 Old Health = 1290 Current Effective Health = 1702 Old Effective Health = 1957 Nerf % = 13.0% At level 30 with Vitality(440%), Vigor(120%) and Steel Fibre (110%) Current Effective Health = 2392 Old Effective Health = 2690 Nerf % = 11.1% At level 30 with Vitality(440%), Vigor(120%), Steel Fibre (110%), and Armored Agility (45%) Current Effective Health = 2674 Old Effective Health = 2990 Nerf % = 10.6% Edited November 9, 2015 by Enemy1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YasaiTsume Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Put this in GD. We have enough "Buff Saryn Health" posts already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)KestralSylver Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 *golf clap* Put this in GD. We have enough "Buff Saryn Health" posts already. You can't really consider this a "Buff Saryn Health" thread, though. All OP is doing is offering an objective view of the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightstealKnight Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 *golf clap* You can't really consider this a "Buff Saryn Health" thread, though. All OP is doing is offering an objective view of the change. Thank you, This is clearly a nerf, but this might be intended? And higher armor makes regenerative molt a little stronger (aside from the spam-ability changes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)KestralSylver Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Thank you, This is clearly a nerf, but this might be intended? And higher armor makes regenerative molt a little stronger (aside from the spam-ability changes) I mean, she was pretty damned tanky beforehand so it is possible that the nerf to her health was intended to offset her new damage potential. I'm really not sure. She basically went from super tanky tactical nuker to semi tanky spam caster. Edited November 9, 2015 by (PS4)KestralSylver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawr1254 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) I mean, she was pretty damned tanky beforehand so it is possible that the nerf to her health was intended to offset her new damage potential. I'm really not sure. She basically went from super tanky tactical nuker to semi tanky spam caster. She wasnt really tanky before it was just that nuking enemies with perma-stagger made the illusion of tanky. Edited November 9, 2015 by rawr1254 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weltraumfred Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 She wasnt really tanky before it was just that nuking enemies with perma-stagger made the illusion of tanky. Yeah this. She was kinda tough. Ironically, her new version needed that toughness urgently. And has gotten nerfed in exactly this department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronyn Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I was never one who used the negative duration builds so saryns revisit is a buff for my playstyle all across the board.... except for her slightly lower EH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YasaiTsume Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) I was never one who used the negative duration builds so saryns revisit is a buff for my playstyle all across the board.... except for her slightly lower EH. Her lower EH means lesser effective Rage, which Saryn was notorious for utilizing very very very well with Regen Molt and to fill her "battery" for Miasma spams. I totally see why DE chose to nerf it, but in the case for reworked Saryn, it hurts her new playstyle alot. Edited November 9, 2015 by YasaiTsume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronyn Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Her lower EH means lesser effective Rage, which Saryn was notorious for utilizing very very very well with Regen Molt and to fill her "battery" for Miasma spams. I totally see why DE chose to nerf it, but in the case for reworked Saryn, it hurts her new playstyle alot. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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