Forblaze Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Show me a video of you beating the Shadow Stalker solo with ONLY the Lato then. Well shadow stalker will become resistant to any individual weapon quickly enough. I don't know why we're talking about stalker in the context of an individual weapon's strength though. The lato is my most used secondary though, and it's been pretty reliable in my experience. I even bring it on sorties. That's with full forma and a catalyst though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthKadra Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 The ability itself sucks, it's just there for the passives. For that matter, they _all_ suck - with that huge cooldown, it's only very occasionally that your 5th can come in handy, whatever it is. I don't even bother to wait till it ends, just pop it and turn it off at once to get the passives working is all it's good for. Other trees might have some utility now and then, as I said, but mostly it's all about passives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qynchou Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Problem with focus abilities is: -Incredibly high cooldown, which isnt justified; -Using your guns/frame is much better for CC/defense or damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Ellimist Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Of course, here we go. I mention level 39's, and everyone immediately assumes I must be some noob. Go on then, take a guess! What is my MR? Give you a hint, been playing for three months. Whoooa a WHOLE 3 months!!?? Senpai teach me -sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yazeth Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Of course, here we go. I mention level 39's, and everyone immediately assumes I must be some noob. Go on then, take a guess! What is my MR? Give you a hint, been playing for three months. And no Bogever, I'm not joking. Point is, Sorties are higher levels, and Trials are higher levels, anything else is around about the 35-45 mark. MY EXAMPLE STANDS. Ok so it's pretty sh!t for me because I do Raids and Sorties often who are around lv. 80-100. I'm sticking to Naramon. Lv. 40 is pretty much late-mid game here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaliazane Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 It's weak and chimera breath makes it even weaker. Entire beam dmg part of madurai does nothing to high level enemies and passive slash/impact/puncture probably add something like 5% total dmg when everything is counted. Madurai is pretty much pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Yiazzy Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Whoooa a WHOLE 3 months!!?? Senpai teach me -sarcasm I wish you were on Xbox One so I could show you how much better I am at this game than you are. Just like EVERYONE ELSE I HAVE THE MISFORTUNE TO BE MATCHED WITH. Hard carry is too real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Alex_Traffo Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 (edited) Guys, could we please keep it civil and avoid arguing over each other? The point of the thread is slowly being forgotten and it'll be likely get locked if we don't come back to the original feedback purpose. Also, it's goddamn Xmas guys, come on! Edited December 25, 2015 by siralextraffo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)LovesLost13 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 I beleive the power is weak for higher tier enemies. I am sadly only able to damage or atleast put a dent in one target if they are 40 any higher than 43 though its like I am shooting blanks at them as I see it doing nothing to their health. So now the thought comes in place. What could happen to it to make it stronger or well atleast compentent to match up with the powers of the other paths. Could say more damage but it may need a whole rework to make the path itself more interesting other than just a lazer. Any thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinigami_Greed Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Does literally nothing to Sentients, but it's fun when you get all the Chimera Breath upgrades. That 4000 damage fire trail really ruins enemy's days. Chimera Breath can also be upgraded to do more damage, so I'm just going to see where this all goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeRaids Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 The only point of that tree is for the damage Passives. +25% to all your damage physical damage forever yes please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyLagging Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 I wish you were on Xbox One so I could show you how much better I am at this game than you are. Just like EVERYONE ELSE I HAVE THE MISFORTUNE TO BE MATCHED WITH. Hard carry is too real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yazeth Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 I wish you were on Xbox One so I could show you how much better I am at this game than you are. Just like EVERYONE ELSE I HAVE THE MISFORTUNE TO BE MATCHED WITH. Hard carry is too real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Yiazzy Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 I wish you were on Xbox One so I could show you how much better I am at this game than you are. Just like EVERYONE ELSE I HAVE THE MISFORTUNE TO BE MATCHED WITH. Hard carry is too real. What's funny is that it's only pc players slamming me for it, ergo, those of you without the means to actually step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnin Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 so far focus has been underwhelming to me. The passive "rest of the mission" bonuses are nice, eps 4 power/sec regen, but the active skills are mostly poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xFrostKnightx Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 (edited) The only point of that tree is for the damage Passives. +25% to all your damage physical damage forever yes please. I thought it was 30% to all physical damage types when you maxed all 3. (Checked, it's 30%) However the way I heard it worked that it only Affected the final damage number and is separate from elemental scaling. (making it even more useless) Realy hope they plan to adjust some of these schools, make it charge faster with conditions. Eg. Madurai = Kill ? Amount of enemies within 10 seconds gets you 10 seconds off the CD Vazarin = Every ? health damage taken by you or allies within ? metres reduces cd by 5seconds. Naramon = Crits reduce cd by ? second. Unarai = Take ? Damage within 10 seconds reduce ability cd by ? Zenurik = Every ? energy spent reduces cd by 5 seconds. That's just an idea, currently there's not much use for them given how restricted they are and usefulness. Only Vazarin and Zenurik are benefitical, energy and revives. The others can easily be done without because they offer little in return for what they do and are easily made redundant by shooting/abilities rather than wasting 1-10 seconds for less result. Anyone can agree the ability actives need to interact with the skill tree, so it's a constant flow. Right now It's just so useless to use them again once you get the passives (unless you run out of revive tokens). Edited December 25, 2015 by xFrostKnightx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyLagging Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 (edited) What's funny is that it's only pc players slamming me for it, ergo, those of you without the means to actually step up. My hand's already trembling at the sight of your 3 months of experience. But really, I'm not the type that likes to sit here and S#&$post- I mean, don't get me wrong I could do that all day but still, I can already see the mods preparing the warning points from here and I want to keep myself "clean", so lemme throw some facts about Phoenix Gaze ( And the Madurai tree in general ) 1. Blast damage sucks. 2. The half-decent laser perks requires Chimera Breath, which cuts your damage even further, sacrificing it for a little bit of crowd capability 3. This is the amount of damage the so-called 10k Gaze does to a bunch of level 40 Corrupted Heavy Gunners ( Pardon the image quality, I'm playing on an ancient Egyptian relic a laptop right now. ) See that right there? That's me, dealing 500 damage ticks with a supposedly 'end-game' ability with 5 minute cooldown. 4. The IPS passives are bloody pathetic and requires you to activate Phoenix Gaze at least once. And if I'm going for passives I'd pick Naramon or Zenurik any day. Edited December 25, 2015 by TotallyLagging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Alex_Traffo Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 My hand's already trembling at the sight of your 3 months of experience. But really, I'm not the type that likes to sit here and S#&$post- I mean, don't get me wrong I could do that all day but still, I can already see the mods preparing the warning points from here and I want to keep myself "clean", so lemme throw some facts about Phoenix Gaze ( And the Madurai tree in general ) 1. Blast damage sucks. 2. The half-decent laser perks requires Chimera Breath, which cuts your damage even further, sacrificing it for a little of crowd capability 3. This is the amount of damage the so-called 10k Gaze does to a bunch of level 40 Corrupted Heavy Gunners ( Pardon the image quality, I'm playing on an ancient Egyptian relic a laptop right now. See that right there? That's me, dealing 500 damage ticks with a supposedly 'end-game' ability with 5 minute cooldown. 4. The IPS passives are bloody pathetic and requires you to activate Phoenix Gaze at least once. And if I'm going for passives I'd pick Naramon or Zenurik any day. Sorry for skipping the important stuff, but what the hell is on your operator's head?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyLagging Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Sorry for skipping the important stuff, but what the hell is on your operator's head?? Carrier Prime, just clipping through my face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nayroy Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Show me a video of you beating the Shadow Stalker solo with ONLY the Lato then. If you give me the plat for the weapon slot and potato, I'd do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic_Noodles Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 If you give me the plat for the weapon slot and potato, I'd do it. It's your Lato you're bragging about if you want to show how much better Lato's are to a Madurai Shot then prove it yourself with your own funds. I picked Madurai mostly because of that Beam attack we had during TSD.. but its still close to it I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nayroy Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 It's your Lato you're bragging about if you want to show how much better Lato's are to a Madurai Shot then prove it yourself with your own funds. I picked Madurai mostly because of that Beam attack we had during TSD.. but its still close to it I guess. Did I say that I used my Lato? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)YorMudders Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 Hoped it would be like a destroying laser beam of death wich can be your saving graze When activated... Sadly enough I find it only usefull for killing low level enemies in a fun way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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