LikeABawsh Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Title says it all. Smokescreen isn't really invisibility. Compare the cloak time to to Loki's. I'd recommend you switch one of his abilities with cloak, or at least make his smokescreen invis time longer by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Title says it all. Smokescreen isn't really invisibility. Compare the cloak time to to Loki's. I'd recommend you switch one of his abilities with cloak, or at least make his smokescreen invis time longer by default. Well he is a ninja frame. Smokescreen does make sense if it is based from a ninja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuko_Miko Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I dunno what you're talking about. My smokescreen lasts ~10 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I dunno what you're talking about. My smokescreen lasts ~10 seconds.Did you upgrade the ability? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Smoke screen also stuns his enemies but it mainly helps when he is in a bind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeABawsh Posted June 9, 2013 Author Share Posted June 9, 2013 Smoke screen also stuns his enemies but it mainly helps when he is in a bind. Yeah, but hes STEALTHY- hes not suppose to get into a bind because he ain't suppose to get noticed. The smokescreen is a panic thing to get you out of jams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoloCreep Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) Im fine with 10 seconds. Of course 15 would be better but 10 is fine... :Blade Storm needs a fix asap though!! Edited June 9, 2013 by SoloCreep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltik0ne Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Dear god, don't tempt DE to mess with Ash ! He's my frame of choice and the break him so much :/ Yes, Blade Storm, got a hellova a surprise when I used it on a defence and broke the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebrawl Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Smokescreen maxes at 6 seconds, Loki's invis maxes at 10. Both of those numbers are without Continuity, which will make them last longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oKibbles Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) Not to mention, in stealth combat, a sentinel does not mess up ash. Loki's sentinel messes up his stealth combat because when he goes invis, the sentinel is still shown and subject to attacks. And mobs like heavy grineer and shockwave moas that can knock you back kind of defeats the purpose of using melee with loki. Because of this, I got rid of my sentinel. Edited June 9, 2013 by oKibbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalusCalibur Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Smokescreen is competely adequate as a stealth move. It doesn't last as long as Loki's, but the tradeoff is area stun for enemies. Please don't change Ash, he's easily my favourite frame and he really does not need any adjustment.Except fixing Blade Storm, of course. I'd rather not have a power that breaks the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Sensei-- Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 idk what you talking about but smokescreen lasts 10 secs for me and works great in pvp even better than loki's cloak soooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlamingSquirrel Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Title says it all. Smokescreen isn't really invisibility. Compare the cloak time to to Loki's. I'd recommend you switch one of his abilities with cloak, or at least make his smokescreen invis time longer by default. Loki has slightly longer stealth, with higher cost. Ash has slightly shorter stealth, with lower cost. They both work out to cost the same energy per second. I'd rather have Ash's atm. Loki's invisibility gets it's sentinel killed, Ash's doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DopeFishh Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Bladestorm is terrible, I'd like it if he throws kunai all over the place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH_PRIME Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Smoke Bomb > InvisibiltyOP you might wanna...you know spent more than 10 minutes on a character and ability before asking for a ability to be changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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