Mag Prime: High Level Infested Missions

[Kevyne_Kicklighter]

Still getting Mag Prime maxed in her mods and an Amprex build weapon for additional CC, but was out on Pluto (mission) and the level !! 116 !! mobs -- even with a Frost in the party -- all that prevented an entire wipe was Crush to keep them off the excavators. :/

Is there any Mag and weapon build (that can do more than pea shooting at level 116 infested)? Really like the Amprex for CC, but after level 100 (and even all the red crits) it felt like nothing was going to down those mobs!

In essence, looking for CC builds that will work well with that detestable mob. I'm using the u18 builds for Mag (currently 3 Forma with Arcane Coil helm for range) and Amprex (currently 4 Forma with 125% Crits). Looking for tips and build suggestions (still farming to max out the mods [they're at the last 2 upgrades for Serration/High Caliber and Transient Fortitude; 5 on Blind Rage - waiting to farm enough prime parts to get Primed Flow, as any higher Shield Polarize and Crush sucks all the energy out]).

Really like Mag as a main frame, and investing a heck of a lot time improving her.

[(PSN)Cwellann]

16 hours ago, Kevyne_Kicklighter said:

it felt like nothing was going to down those mobs

Ancient aura spam is about as annoying as Vay Hek's voice.  Bring a secondary weapon with high status chance and radiation damage (*cough* Staticor *cough*, pocket Nyx Nukor works too, edit, how the Hek did I forget about Atomos >.>).  It'll turn the auras off, and your damage will spike back up.  Or, bring an Oberon buddy - turns out he's not useless (edit, this was supposed to be heavy with sarcasm, as he's one of my favorites), and despite radiation damage not being great against the Infested, being able to turn those protective auras off makes for an unbelievably huge damage buff.  Alternately, mod your Amprex for radiation and status, and bring a secondary for damage (Kulstar, etc).

Edited April 18, 2016 by (PS4)Cwellann
derped, and sarcasm doesn't come through very well in text

[Brayzure]

Once you get to very high level enemies, you should be focusing less on killing everything, and more on CC. Mag is far from the best for this, though her rework may change that. You could emphasize Pull, but then you have a bunch of enemies right by your extractor. Maybe try and Pull away from the extractor? If you do, you'll want maximum range and efficiency.

[Kevyne_Kicklighter]

Pull with a Frost CC feels counter-productive (breaks the CC). I was "holding" the every coming mobs that wasn't frozen in place with Crush, but the power drain was too much (don't have Primed Flow yet).

Mag does her job well, I'm just trying to find a build that can keep the mobs "in place" better. Would Fracturing Crush do better at high mobs like these? At 273% Power Strength/170% range currently she can do the level 30-40 mobs no problem now. But Pluto Dark Sector mobs, it's truly testing the limits of CC!!!

[Brayzure]

3 minutes ago, Kevyne_Kicklighter said:

Pull with a Frost CC feels counter-productive (breaks the CC). I was "holding" the every coming mobs that wasn't frozen in place with Crush, but the power drain was too much (don't have Primed Flow yet).

I agree, it's not ideal, but if you pull from outside the globe it might work.

Fracturing Crush would help, but you'd need to immobilize them for 100 seconds, using tons of energy in the process. If you bring a bunch of energy pads it would work, but that just seems like more work than is necessary.

Like I said, Mag is not what you want to bring if you want CC. Vauban, Mirage, Excalibur, Loki, and Nova would all be better suited for CC. I understand that you really enjoy Mag, but no frame is good in every situation. I'd use Mag when dealing with Corpus (with Shield Polarize).

As for your weapons, few weapons hold up solidly at very high levels. I'd recommend shotguns or powerful rifles (Boltor, for example).

[faustias]

you can replace Frost with a Slow-build Nova. Make her remove Fleeting Expertise for maximum travel time for MPrime, and just pull away those who are near the Excavator.

[Kevyne_Kicklighter]

4 hours ago, ChronoEclipse said:

What are you doing with Mag fighting Infested?

Farming Focus to max out the mods -- Serration/Heavy Caliber takes TOO many! lol

1 hour ago, (PS4)Cwellann said:

Ancient aura spam is about as annoying as Vay Hek's voice.  Bring a secondary weapon with high status chance and radiation damage (*cough* Staticor *cough*, pocket Nyx Nukor works too).  It'll turn the auras off, and your damage will spike back up.  Or, bring an Oberon buddy - turns out he's not useless, and despite radiation damage not being great against the Infested, being able to turn those protective auras off makes for an unbelievably huge damage buff.  Alternately, mod your Amprex for radiation and status, and bring a secondary for damage (Kulstar, etc).

Thanks for the tips. Was wondering how/why nothing seemed to be working after level 100. Like trying to shoot through bulletproof glass!

Leveling the Sonicor now.

[--Q--uaint]

1 minute ago, Kevyne_Kicklighter said:

Farming Focus to max out the mods -- Serration/Heavy Caliber takes TOO many! lol

…wat

Were you farming Focus, or farming cores?

If both, do Triton or similar - Mag wrecks Corpus with extreme prejudice.

1 hour ago, (PS4)Cwellann said:

pocket Nyx Nukor works too

Even better is a radiation Atomos. Punchthrough + chaining means you've got a lot of chances to proc, and ancient healers will get the first Rad proc you throw at their group.

Radiation Ignis is a thing, too.

1 hour ago, (PS4)Cwellann said:

Or, bring an Oberon buddy - turns out he’s not useless

….lol. He was never useless. His heal is also nice for all that toxic proc action Infested love to throw your way.

4 minutes ago, Kevyne_Kicklighter said:

Leveling the Sonicor now.

Don’t be fooled by the 0% quoted status chance. Radiation on that sucker will help a lot.

[-Ryuurei-]

So this is basically about hieracon right? Vauban with repelling bastille + disarm loki for the power carriers that have projectiles, add a frost for ultimate safety and all sonicors in case people go down. If you wanna play mag, go triton instead.

[-Ryuurei-]

4th slot could be banshee for sonar/resonance and soundquake CC or nyx to get rid of ancient dmg reduction. (Although the augment on disarm loki will manage just fine as well for that)

If you really want to play mag, max zenurik focus' energy regen, I can keep bursas CC'd all day long. And go to triton instead. Post rework mag could be interesting vs infested though if the team plays right.

Still can't edit on my tablet, so I had to make an extra post.

[Kevyne_Kicklighter]

11 hours ago, ChronoEclipse said:

…wat

Were you farming Focus, or farming cores?

If both, do Triton or similar - Mag wrecks Corpus with extreme prejudice.

Mission was at Hieracon and had to finish Pluto, and farm Focus cores (have plenty of the Cytofrost simply farming on Earth, but rare cores don't drop there).

Mag as a one-trick pony is rather boring, so I venture beyond simply Corpus maps (in fact, I killed less Corpus than any other enemy). Anyway to test a frame's abilities to the full potential is not to play only the easier maps (I can do that solo). I spend most of my kill time hunting the invested, where crowd control is really needed. Level 40 or less infested I simply kill the entire room endlessly. It's actually very fun, as the infested is like zombie kills (coming from another game, where AoE is shunned, I haven't had this much fun in AoEing in years, too!).

It's the level 80+ infested I didn't encounter before, and needing tips on how to mow them down (especially now with Erris maps needs to be finished, and where Chargers can take 1600 shields off in 2 hits!).

[(XBOX)BluAina]

She's great cc man both crush and pull can be spammed for a fair good but and ba heavies for added takedown if they're too beefy, for wep whatever you're comfortable with really.

[Epicagemo]

7 hours ago, Kevyne_Kicklighter said:

She does v-e-r-y well considering she's a glass cannon AoE class. Just did the Alert and did 58% of the damage (and came late to the public group [last 3 waves], even).

Will test her some more on Pluto/Erris.

I don't understand what you want, this is in players helping players, and if you don't want my advice, then why even respond?

[Kevyne_Kicklighter]

14 hours ago, Epicagemo said:

I don't understand what you want, this is in players helping players, and if you don't want my advice, then why even respond?

Specifically asked for a build for Mag for infested runs, preferably by someone who actually played Mag for awhile (not just Corpus runs). So I can tailor Mag around it.

The tip on the ancient aura was great (as that's something I didn't realize they did itself [as there's little time to see anything beyond a wall of infested]). Tips on weapons was fine.

But people basically chiming in with snitty comments don't help (moreso with retaliatory voting).

I have to play Mag as she's a ranged AoE class, and after a stroke, it's about all I can even see to play (why I specifically use the Amprex). I'm playing Warframe as rehab with my arm/shoulder and vision, as it's a dexterity game, too.

[--Q--uaint]

What are you doing with Mag fighting Infested?

Sonicor is probably your best bet for CC, or tell the Frost to recast Globe when they get to the excavator.

Failing that, get a Blast/status Torid build with Firestorm. The enemies will be stuck in the clouds for^everrrrrr_{rrrrrrrrrrrrr}

Sancti Tigris, Tonkor, Simulor would all work well for killing level 100+ Infested.

[--Q--uaint]

29 minutes ago, Kevyne_Kicklighter said:

Focus

Fusion!

29 minutes ago, Kevyne_Kicklighter said:

Cytofrost

Cryotic

29 minutes ago, Kevyne_Kicklighter said:

Mag as a one-trick pony is rather boring

Fair point

30 minutes ago, Kevyne_Kicklighter said:

It’s the level 80+ infested I didn’t encounter before, and needing tips on how to mow them down (especially now with Erris maps needs to be finished, and where Chargers can take 1600 shields off in 2 hits!).

AoE weapons to kill ancients are good. Radiation procs are amazing since they always hit the healer ancient first for maximum benefit.

Bulletjump, grasshopper. GTFO and knock them down? Yes, please.

[Epicagemo]

I would not recommend trying to make Mag viable for Infested in her current state. If you want to player her in infested missions, that's your choice.

There's not really a good way for Mag to excel in Infested. However, If you really want to make Mag viable on high level play, you're really going to have to take advantage of bullet attracter. You'll get focused damage from you and your team, as well as maybe nullifying the nasty infested moa Tar and Swarm. The tricky thing is to hit the healers first, otherwise you wont be doing damage to the selected target, as well balance duration with str and efficiency. Otherwise, Pull and Crush spam for CC.

[Kevyne_Kicklighter]

53 minutes ago, Epicagemo said:

I would not recommend trying to make Mag viable for Infested in her current state. If you want to player her in infested missions, that's your choice.

There's not really a good way for Mag to excel in Infested. However, If you really want to make Mag viable on high level play, you're really going to have to take advantage of bullet attracter. You'll get focused damage from you and your team, as well as maybe nullifying the nasty infested moa Tar and Swarm. The tricky thing is to hit the healers first, otherwise you wont be doing damage to the selected target, as well balance duration with str and efficiency. Otherwise, Pull and Crush spam for CC.

She does v-e-r-y well considering she's a glass cannon AoE class. Just did the Alert and did 58% of the damage (and came late to the public group [last 3 waves], even).

Will test her some more on Pluto/Erris.