Loser_Prime Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 This issue has been bothering me lately. Sometimes, my Ogris - which would kill mid-level Ancients with ease, only takes away a chunk of their health instead of killing them instantly. (Both scenarios are against same-level enemies) Anybody else experiencing this? Is there a mechanic I am not aware of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikeXII Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 There might be a few reasons, but what is your loadout for your Ogris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segolia Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 In general, I think the explosion does not 'pierce' enemies. What this means is that when you actually hit an enemy with the rocket, their corpse tends to shield the enemies behind it from taking damage at all (and sometimes it feels like when you hit an enemy with the projectile, they don't take damage from the explosion, only the projectile). Try aiming at the ground near enemies, I find this tends to help. The other thing is some enemies. eg. ancients (unless you manage to land the projectile on their foot or head), seem to be very resistant to the explosion damage without elemental modifiers . I'm not sure what the damage type/enemy resistances are like but I found once I put on an armour piercing mod I started doing a lot more damage to ancients (though that could just be the additional damage too) It would be nice to know a bit more about the explosion mechanic, because the inconsistent damage annoys me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loser_Prime Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 There might be a few reasons, but what is your loadout for your Ogris? This is my loadout: And I'm starting to think my problem has something to do with my aim... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexias Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 What mods do you have equipped? If you have more than one Elemental mod (Electric, Cold, Fire or Armour Pierce), that could be the reason as to why you're experiencing inconsistency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexias Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 This is my loadout: And I'm starting to think my problem has something to do with my aim... Okay, thats your problem right there. The ogris works just like Thunderbolt does on the bows, where if you have more than one elemental mod equipped it only selects one to deal damage with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loser_Prime Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 Okay, thats your problem right there. The ogris works just like Thunderbolt does on the bows, where if you have more than one elemental mod equipped it only selects one to deal damage with. Oh, so that was the culprit. I hope DE will change that in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanTheNewbie Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Any time I body shot them, they usually take minimal damage, but when I shoot the ground where their weak point is, they take heavy damage. Strangely, the damage is still inconsistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X3Evanescence Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Okay, thats your problem right there. The ogris works just like Thunderbolt does on the bows, where if you have more than one elemental mod equipped it only selects one to deal damage with. Hm excellent observation there. I have finally found the reason behind some of my Ogris problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAimbot Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Explosions also deal less damage the further an enemy is from the center of the explosion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLucifer Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Wrong the explosion use all the dmg mods you have, i already tested it many times. You can easily see it when you "miss" that all the elemental mods you had, will be on the mob that survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Rue_ Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Okay, thats your problem right there. The ogris works just like Thunderbolt does on the bows, where if you have more than one elemental mod equipped it only selects one to deal damage with. been testing this and it's correct. Ignore the visuals and look at the numbers. Until this is changed you only need AP on your ogris and max 1 forma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X3Evanescence Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Correct. Bug? I do not know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scyris Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I'd say bug, There is no reason why its only being effected by 1 elemental mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direcyphre Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I have noticed inconsistent damage as well, but nothing to do with elements. The numbers I see popping up seem to range greatly in all the runs i've done of these recent defense alerts. Direct hits always seem to do mediocre damage, but half the time the splash damage from the ground manages to hit them for major damage. And I do mean half the time, because sometimes I'll see like 24 damage pop up (twice, with multishot) shooting directly at an Ancient's feet, other times it's over a hundred. Splash damage from direct hits also seems to vary, but the only real times I can notice it is against ancients who don't normally die in one hit anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrabby Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 This issue has been bothering me lately. Sometimes, my Ogris - which would kill mid-level Ancients with ease, only takes away a chunk of their health instead of killing them instantly. (Both scenarios are against same-level enemies) Anybody else experiencing this? Is there a mechanic I am not aware of? I've noticed this too, even on high level defense when I'm trying to blow up a group of runners (my ogris was kind of low level at the time, and wasn't potatoed). At first I thought maybe I wasn't hitting them in the head, but it's definitely not the case. Sometimes, fighting the same level enemies in the same wave, my Ogris will comlpetely ohk a group of infested, and other times only a few get blown up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bijuaru Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I have noticed inconsistent damage as well, but nothing to do with elements. The numbers I see popping up seem to range greatly in all the runs i've done of these recent defense alerts. Direct hits always seem to do mediocre damage, but half the time the splash damage from the ground manages to hit them for major damage. And I do mean half the time, because sometimes I'll see like 24 damage pop up (twice, with multishot) shooting directly at an Ancient's feet, other times it's over a hundred. Splash damage from direct hits also seems to vary, but the only real times I can notice it is against ancients who don't normally die in one hit anyway. I'm experiencing the same, this randomness in damage hopefully gets fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrikeXII Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 This isn't a ping issue at all is it? People are receiving these results even in solo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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