BentDownFork Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I remember DE saying something about making the wyrm/shade as powerful as its cubed counterpart...have they been buffed? They do feel a but stronger but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I haven't read anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoxile Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Their range has been increased. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
http404error Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Their range has been increased. That's it. Although a significant amount that makes a decent difference. It still seems pretty weak comparatively, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreUr Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Nope, Dethcube is your damage-dealer, Shade is for cloaking and Wyrm is for lulz - seriously I can't think about his single advantage over other Sentinels, though it looks coolest with Hunhow mask and Diamond wings (IMO, at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambarpowder Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Senitals... God that sounds so weird. Anyways, Wyrm is for egotistic people who don't like aimbots stealing their kills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiabolusUrsus Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Wyrm will be fine the minute they get Crowd Dispersion working. Then you haveShade - For cloaking and applying convenient elemental effects to enemies every now and then.Wyrm - For decent supporting damage output and defensive breathing room.Dethcube - For when you absolutely, positively, have to kill every @&#(&*@#$# in the room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden11121 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Sentinals have not... I'm sure Sentinels haven't either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 If DE sees this thread, I just want to remind them that Dethcube is stealing xp, kills, and stats from players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden11121 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I will fight for your right to your opinion, but do me a favor first. Go to Io with a tricked out Dethcube. Equip a low level primary, secondary, warframe, and melee weapon. Stand back, and let the cube kill everything. Come back and report your findings. So don't use the cube? If you let something kill something. Then it deserves it's reward. Do you want to mooch off of it? If it's such a burden use shade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubedOobleck Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) I like DethCube, but imo Shade is the OP sentinel. Seriously, being able to turn invisible as long as you want simply by not shooting and standing next to a foe is exploitable, you will basically never die if you play correctly. Wyrm might not be so bad if his Crowd Control precept actually worked, but it's just a guess since I actually never saw it in practice. Of course for now Wyrm is plain useless. Edited June 26, 2013 by CubedOobleck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 So don't use the cube? If you let something kill something. Then it deserves it's reward. Do you want to mooch off of it? If it's such a burden use shade. I am. That's not the point. Seeing as this is beta, we are to report bugs and mechanics that do not work, or display proper information. You are assuming too much, my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 To be fair, I don't think you get any exp from deathcube kills. The sentinel itself might get exp, but you and your teammates won't get any exp for their weapons and so forth The sentinel does not even grant himself exp (except for his weapon). If you notice people saying things like "Oh yeah, Dethcube's rifle levels super quick, but it takes forever to get him to 30." That's the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLucifer Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Actually you get xp from its kills, i tested many times on M Prime and even when i just ran trough while he were having the fun, i still got some xp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogManDan Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 If DE sees this thread, I just want to remind them that Dethcube is stealing xp, kills, and stats from players. If all XP is shared at the end of the mission how is Dethcube stealing the XP? For stats do you realize it will take you forever to even reach the top of that leaderboard and quite frankly this is just for people who feel more powerful behind some numbers. As a personal note I can do just as much damage/kills in a round using any of the 3 Sentinels as long as they are equipped properly and matched with the right Warframe. There is no one Sentinel that over-powers another it just comes down to your player skill. Shade - For cloaking and applying convenient elemental effects to enemies every now and then. Wyrm - For decent supporting damage output and defensive breathing room. Dethcube - For when you absolutely, positively, have to kill every @(&*@#$# in the room. This here sounds just about right to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayden11121 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 The sentinel does not even grant himself exp (except for his weapon). If you notice people saying things like "Oh yeah, Dethcube's rifle levels super quick, but it takes forever to get him to 30." That's the cause. Weapons and Sentinels level differently. My Shade has about 4 kills, and his weapon got to 30 before the Shade itself did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 If all XP is shared at the end of the mission how is Dethcube stealing the XP? For stats do you realize it will take you forever to even reach the top of that leaderboard and quite frankly this is just for people who feel more powerful behind some numbers. Again, like I said in my other threads, it's about being thorough with our bug reports. This is a beta game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engelheim Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Their range has been increased. That's it. Wouldn't that just make wyrm and shade more useless since they have slow moving projectiles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Weapons and Sentinels level differently. My Shade has about 4 kills, and his weapon got to 30 before the Shade itself did. Again. The Dethcube's kills do not grant him *any* sentinel xp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetRockIV Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 The sentinel does not even grant himself exp (except for his weapon). If you notice people saying things like "Oh yeah, Dethcube's rifle levels super quick, but it takes forever to get him to 30." That's the cause. Ah, makes sense. I too remember having my Dethcube's rifle hit 30 way before the sentinel itself did lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigglz Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 The Wiki states that you get warframe XP for every kill your sentinel does, but i haven´t done any testing on this. "Whenever a sentinel kills an enemy, the player only receives warframe experience. Even if the player assisted in the kill, no weapon experience is awarded." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroGamerNinja Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 At this point, I'm not surprised why I simply don't play with a sentinel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethAbercromby Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Got myself a Wyrm for additional CC and increased Efficiency when i start rampaging with my melee weapon as it hinders the enemies from ganking me... Well in theory at least. i read about the bugged Crowd Dispersion after buying the blueprint. Doesn't matter, looks badass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaymoreNo47 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 i finished 7 forma on my Dethcube. Doing 7 forma on my wyrm right now and its gawd awful but i must because once its balanced i want it ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris9428 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 My Deathcube rifle hit rank 30 when the Dethcube itself was only about rank 16. It took extremely long to rank up the Dethcube. Oh, and you can basically stand on the pod in Kiliken going afk till wave 20. Your Dethcube will handle it without any issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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