Naramon Shadow Step doesn't work on finishers?

[INQBUS_11]

I've been searching around the forum and it seems that everyone has different opinions about naramon shadow step not working on finishers (i.e. Ash's Fatal Teleport).

Can anyone confirm if this is true? I've been farming naramon points crazy to have it proc on my ash's fatal teleport (with covert lethality), and it would be a bummer if it didn't work on Ash or any other finishers for that matter.

Also, how exactly does this shadow step passive work within a mission? Does it activate after you've used naramon focus skill a few times? or does it just work all the time once you unlock it from the focus activation screen?

Edited March 11, 2017 by ASH_BLUE

[Ivan_Rid]

Finishers are not crits, so why would Shadow step proc from them. Not every damage number glowing yellow is a crit.

To activate passives you have to use Focus power once while on mission.

[ashrah]

for ash get 2 set arcane trickery to proc u stealth on finishers they are not expensive..

[Praxxor]

7 minutes ago, Ivan_Rid said:

Finishers are not crits, so why would Shadow step proc from them. Not every damage number glowing yellow is a crit.

To activate passives you have to use Focus power once while on mission.

 

Finishers can be critical too though, seen a lot of them in red.

[Ivan_Rid]

Just now, Praxxor said:

Finishers can be critical too though, seen a lot of them in red.

Yeah, now when I think about it, I regularly got regenerative procs from Hirudo on Savage Silence Banshee - it wouldnt be possible without critical finishers, because finishers is literally only thing I`ve been doing.

[(PSN)CoolD2108]

Works with regular finishers, is impossible with Covert lethality. 

 

That's probably what it boils down to.

[Xekrin]

31 minutes ago, Ivan_Rid said:

Not every damage number glowing yellow is a crit.

Kinda wish this part here would be remedied, as in making finishers a different color, hell a different font.  Something to distinguish it from criticals, it is quite misleading.  I see yellow numbers pop up when attacking while invisible.  Are those crits?  Are they finishers? are they stealth multiplied? who knows, its all yellow.

Edited March 11, 2017 by Xekrin

[(PSN)theelix]

Finishers =/= Criticals 

Finishing attacks can crit, but are not forced crits. 

[INQBUS_11]

1 hour ago, Ivan_Rid said:

Yeah, now when I think about it, I regularly got regenerative procs from Hirudo on Savage Silence Banshee - it wouldnt be possible without critical finishers, because finishers is literally only thing I`ve been doing.

So I'm confused if finishers can red crit shouldn't it proc the passives? even with covert lethality? I mean as long as they are considered crits right?

[INQBUS_11]

2 hours ago, ashrah said:

for ash get 2 set arcane trickery to proc u stealth on finishers they are not expensive..

I was already using 1 set arcane trickery, but does using 2 set make any real difference as opposed to using just 1 set?

[Ivan_Rid]

Just now, ASH_BLUE said:

So I'm confused if finishers can red crit shouldn't it proc the passives? even with covert lethality? I mean as long as they are considered crits right?

Well they can crit, but for purposes of Shadow Step there is no difference if its finisher or quick melee swing.

However it seems that finishers performed by dagger with Covert Lethality cannot crit, and thus wont proc a Shadow Step. Afaik those trigger some script that just plain scores enemy`s max hp instead of calculating damage like other weapons.

[ashrah]

13 minutes ago, ASH_BLUE said:

I was already using 1 set arcane trickery, but does using 2 set make any real difference as opposed to using just 1 set?

yes its dose u have  2 times better chance to proc...

[INQBUS_11]

15 minutes ago, ashrah said:

yes its dose u have  2 times better chance to proc...

thats good to know... now i only regret modding one of them with arcane strikes for faster blade storm

[ashrah]

1 hour ago, ASH_BLUE said:

thats good to know... now i only regret modding one of them with arcane strikes for faster blade storm

i did first same.. used 1 strike 1 trickery..  then i got cheap trickery set trough trade... and i was think lets try to switch on 2 trickery.. its procs much more...