cknives Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Are the hacks ruining the game? Running rampant? People complaining about them? And you didn't even read what I said about separating, did you? They don't have to redesign anything. At all. Ever. And in regards to weapon damage, same deal as mode-specific mods, simply add separate sets of numbers for Player to Player damage. Which is fairly simple to do, apparently. lol i give up. You don't seem to understand what im saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 lol i give up. Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NalkorRN Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Are the hacks ruining the game? Running rampant? People complaining about them? And you didn't even read what I said about separating, did you? They don't have to redesign anything. At all. Ever. And in regards to weapon damage, same deal as mode-specific mods, simply add separate sets of numbers for Player to Player damage. Which is fairly simple to do, apparently. Uh, yeah, they are. People are being banned over false positives, from a hacking running their cheatengine or whatever in a public game, running a disk defrag/Anti-Virus, all a result of DE's anti-cheat system handing out the autoban hammer and the sites will even advertise the hacks being undetectable. My guess is that they create dummy accounts to see if the hack gets detected or not, and if it doesn't get detected, they release it on their forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Steve talked about the hacking forums in a live stream before, brought up some posts. It was pretty funny. I don't think DE's program having false positives = "hacks running rampant". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NalkorRN Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Steve talked about the hacking forums in a live stream before, brought up some posts. It was pretty funny. I don't think DE's program having false positives = "hacks running rampant". Is there a block function on these forums? I'd like to start filtering out people who have their heads in the sand all day every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 If you can't actually understand the question I asked, it's not my problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NalkorRN Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 If you can't actually understand the question I asked, it's not my problem.If you're not an intelligence being who can understand that yes, hacking is an on-going concern, it's not my problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 If you're not an intelligent being who can understand that yes, hacking is an on-going concern, it's not my problem. Fixed. And, again, problems on DE's end has no relevance to what I asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palamedus Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Pvp is a nice thought but if they wanted to implement it, they should of done it at the start. Balancing would be a nightmare, they can hardly balance out the frames for pve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brasten Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) Pvp is a nice thought but if they wanted to implement it, they should of done it at the start. Balancing would be a nightmare, they can hardly balance out the frames for pveHow many times does it have to be said. There are many different kinds of Player versus Player out there. PvP does not have to mean Arena PvP. While Arena PvP is the most common and often easiest from of PvP in a Shooter game, you can set Player against Player in other ways. The sides don't even have to be symmetrical in operation. Asymmetrical card game example Edited July 20, 2013 by Brasten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neKroMancer Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 It's fine, as long as both side are their separate own entity and PvE get much needed development without being gimped because money got drained into PvP. The fanbase change, however, is going to be awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paragasu Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Warframe will be an e-parkour! NINJA STYLE! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) It's fine, as long as both side are their separate own entity and PvE get much needed development without being gimped because money got drained into PvP. The fanbase change, however, is going to be awful. With the release to the PS4, the game is growing and expanding to a larger audience, which means more money that can go into PvE and even PvP if they so choose. If more PvP is added to the game, it can have more potential to cater to more than one audience, which means more players and more money, which is more money for PvE. You've been here since Closed Beta, haven't you? You've seen how the community has changed already.... /sigh Back then, I remember people wanting PvP and no one hating anyone for it... I even made my own thread and no one yelled at me... Edited July 20, 2013 by FatalX7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythblaze Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 With the release to the PS4, the game is growing and expanding to a larger audience, which means more money that can go into PvE and even PvP if they so choose. If more PvP is added to the game, it can have more potential to cater to more than one audience, which means more players and more money, which is more money for PvE. You've been here since Closed Beta, haven't you? You've seen how the community has changed already.... /sigh Back then, I remember people wanting PvP and no one hating anyone for it... I even made my own thread and no one yelled at me... You are just like me. We are two Warframe Vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie9001 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Im exited about those new enemy types. (New faction to fight against maybe???) Yes. We need new blood. =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak_Gohae Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Back then, I remember people wanting PvP and no one hating anyone for it... I even made my own thread and no one yelled at me... What? Noooooo..... people always didnt like the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rengakun Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 The dropping of the beta tag will likely coincide with a major update in the autumn. Just like MW:O. (Unless PGI really suck at meeting deadlines) 2 F2P games dropping their Beta tags with a major update in the same time period. Coincidence, or more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kLai Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Lets not pull a Firefall and get the e-sports virus. Dump resources into PVP development, completely neglect PVE and majority of playerbase, then turn into dead game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Noooooo..... people always didnt like the idea. I suppose we remember things differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Lunatic_ Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Oh dear, no. Can you even imagine how poorly PVP would work in this game? Don't waste time on something most people don't even like the concept of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PandaMarine Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) I don't mind they add some pvp content to this game, but I don't want them to turn this game into an esport game and let pvp become the main focus. I play this game for pve. Edited July 20, 2013 by 19912201 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonjlx Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) WarFrame as an esport? lol With the way DE balances things, good luck with that. Release a shotgun, change it 100 times based on posts from average gamers. I cringe at the idea of seeing how they would go about balancing frames for pvp. This game feels terrible in PvP as it stands (which its not designed for, so no big deal), it would need a major overhaul. Hopefully they stick to their original vision, just keep this as a Mass Effect 3 style co-op game please. Edited July 20, 2013 by Jasonjlx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clasbyte Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 As long as they have stats on the mods for pve and separate stats on the mods for pvp it will be ok :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redthirst Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 E-sports? Are you @(*()$ serious? Maybe first you want to make some co-op expirience in this game? Because now I can't see the reason why this is called "co-op game". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neKroMancer Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I suppose we remember things differently. Very different indeed. I checked the FAQ when I joined the forum in January and Steve already posted his "no. not now. probably never" in the FAQ and I accepted that. Then Lotus issued an order to exterminate all PvP topic, except one in the off-topic section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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