Unofficial Weapon Benchmark

[Sixty5]

As far as I know, armour no longer scales with level.

Also I have been testing proc crits. I had an unmodded Soma shooting at Sonar hitting for 14k, or at least it appeared to ingame and on video.

[Rompido]

As far as I know, armour no longer scales with level.

Also I have been testing proc crits. I had an unmodded Soma shooting at Sonar hitting for 14k, or at least it appeared to ingame and on video.

 

 

ooooh ok. then its just HP then? because clearly there is something causing it to take longer to kill a lvl 60 vs a lvl 30

[Rompido]

played around with the elements on my synapse. got it to 2700'ish pure corrosion. going to give that a try.

 

 

ok gave it a try. did the same. Well, actually worse since in my first synapse video with blast + Ele I stopped hitting him for a brief moment. where as in this video that did not happen. any ideas?

 

My thoughts.

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http://youtu.be/C-gtu1_rFRc

Corrosive does +75% vs Armor and +50% vs Robotic. ( Of 2700 )  is higher than ......

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-Electricity does -25% vs Infested and +50% vs Robotic. ( of 1036 ) and

-Blast does +25% vs Armor and Flesh. ( of 1864 )

in this video. http://youtu.be/0bOWa2IXtmM

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Has the elemental combos bonus changed since I've seen them? is my math wrong?

 

 

Something else of note. If you pick any point while I'm damaging the boss. and pause it.

In the blast + Ele video you will see a "tight" group of numbers 291 and 306 those are the only 2 numbers.

in the Corrosive. you will see a larger spread of numbers even though its 1 element. 266,267,279,386, up to 444

 

just pointing this out in hopes it helps.

Edited November 22, 2013 by Rompido

[Rompido]

in the Corrosive. you will see a larger spread of numbers even though its 1 element. 266,267,279,386, up to 444

 

just pointing this out in hopes it helps.

 

So I've been away, doing some work around the house. and An Idea hit me.

 

Back when I played other MMO's online I remember something called "sunder armor" as the stacks increased so did the amount of armor the target lost. thus in turn your damage would increase. could this perhaps explain how in the corrosive status works? its a "stack" that builds up? then drops off? 

 

just another random thought. then again Synapse is a "continuous" damage dealing weapon like flux and spectra and its not as easy to break down as 1 round 1 number ?

[Definitegj]

ok gave it a try. did the same. Well, actually worse since in my first synapse video with blast + Ele I stopped hitting him for a brief moment. where as in this video that did not happen. any ideas?

 

My thoughts.

..

http://youtu.be/C-gtu1_rFRc

Corrosive does +75% vs Armor and +50% vs Robotic. ( Of 2700 )  is higher than ......

..

..

-Electricity does -25% vs Infested and +50% vs Robotic. ( of 1036 ) and

-Blast does +25% vs Armor and Flesh. ( of 1864 )

in this video. http://youtu.be/0bOWa2IXtmM

..

..

 

Has the elemental combos bonus changed since I've seen them? is my math wrong?

 

 

Something else of note. If you pick any point while I'm damaging the boss. and pause it.

In the blast + Ele video you will see a "tight" group of numbers 291 and 306 those are the only 2 numbers.

in the Corrosive. you will see a larger spread of numbers even though its 1 element. 266,267,279,386, up to 444

 

just pointing this out in hopes it helps.

 

Well to be fair, in your electric and blast video, you inflicted poison with your melee that carry over to the fiery stage. That remove all the shield of Lech Kril and also 1-2% of HP.

 

Though, i still expect the corrosive to be faster than that.

[Rompido]

I was right!!!!!!

 

It does STACK!

 

watch the Latron prime video. starts out flat numbers

 

503 @0.23 seconds

1st proc   @34 damage goes up to 529

2   proc    @35 damage goes up to 555

3&4 proc  @44 damage goes up to 579 , 601

5th proc   @44.8 damage up to 620

 

@ 51 there is a 6th. but the following shot does not go up in damage. perhaps cap is at 5?

 

what yall think?

[Rompido]

Well to be fair, in your electric and blast video, you inflicted poison with your melee that carry over to the fiery stage. That remove all the shield of Lech Kril and also 1-2% of HP.

 

Though, i still expect the corrosive to be faster than that.

 

 

ok I'll give it another try.

[Wurmheart]

Corrosion is listed as armor damage, which i take means it lowers defense when triggered. ah nice find rompido, stacking corrosion sounds sweet.

 

Blast + Elec dmg is quite high itself though, and you can see a 435 dmg tick at the start of 0:23. Perhaps Blast itself also deals damage?

Edited November 23, 2013 by Wurmheart

[Definitegj]

I was right!!!!!!

 

It does STACK!

 

watch the Latron prime video. starts out flat numbers

 

503 @0.23 seconds

1st proc   @34 damage goes up to 529

2   proc    @35 damage goes up to 555

3&4 proc  @44 damage goes up to 579 , 601

5th proc   @44.8 damage up to 620

 

@ 51 there is a 6th. but the following shot does not go up in damage. perhaps cap is at 5?

 

what yall think?

 

Glad that it really stack.

Edited November 23, 2013 by Definitegj

[Definitegj]

As far as I know, armour no longer scales with level.

Also I have been testing proc crits. I had an unmodded Soma shooting at Sonar hitting for 14k, or at least it appeared to ingame and on video.

 

Just tested an unmodded Dual Ichor against

 

Lvl 1 Lancer vs Lvl 9 lancer

 

39          vs        35

 

 

So armor, shield, HP still scale with level

 

And after some calculation with the damage reduction formula (Damage Reduction % = (Armor*0.0035)/(1+Armor*0.035), the level 9 Lancer has around 143 armor. So it gained ~40 armor in 8 levels.

Edited November 23, 2013 by Definitegj

[NullCurrent]

A friend asked me to record a kill of Kril with my Lanka, so I did it: 

 

Result: about 5 seconds

 

(The video is a bit choppy from time to time, I don't have an SSD to record to :/)

 

The build I use:

http://i.imgur.com/tRCGDrW.png

 

Forma: 5 (4 V and 1 --)

 

Mods:

 

* Serration R10

* Speed Trigger R5

* Split Chamber R5

* Heavy Caliber R6

* Infected Clip R5

* Stormbringer R4

* Vital Sense R5

* Point Strike R5

 

I have tried to make a smoother recording by reducing the graphics settings and so on, but so far I have not managed to get a smooth video which is faster than 7 seconds for a kill. Crits apparently no longer like me :( Longest kill was about 12 seconds, had to use more than a magazine lol.

[Rompido]

Just tested an unmodded Dual Ichor against

 

Lvl 1 Lancer vs Lvl 9 lancer

 

39          vs        35

 

 

So armor, shield, HP still scale with level

 

And after some calculation with the damage reduction formula (Damage Reduction % = (Armor*0.0035)/(1+Armor*0.035), the level 9 Lancer has around 143 armor. So it gained ~40 armor in 8 levels.

 

Good to know, I was pretty sure it did just wasn't certain

 

 

 

A friend asked me to record a kill of Kril with my Lanka, so I did it: 

 

Result: about 5 seconds

 

(The video is a bit choppy from time to time, I don't have an SSD to record to :/)

 

The build I use:

http://i.imgur.com/tRCGDrW.png

 

Forma: 5 (4 V and 1 --)

 

Mods:

 

* Serration R10

* Speed Trigger R5

* Split Chamber R5

* Heavy Caliber R6

* Infected Clip R5

* Stormbringer R4

* Vital Sense R5

* Point Strike R5

 

I have tried to make a smoother recording by reducing the graphics settings and so on, but so far I have not managed to get a smooth video which is faster than 7 seconds for a kill. Crits apparently no longer like me :( Longest kill was about 12 seconds, had to use more than a magazine lol.

 

 

 

Awesome thank you. yes its very choppy but i'll still post it up. I clocked you at about 4.6

[Lorenzhart]

Oh how the great has fallen.

[Rompido]

Oh how the great has fallen.

 

 

LOL yeah really surprising to see how all the weapons are doing so differently than before.

[Kato-san]

Killed him in 28 seconds using Vectis with Primed chamber+crit mods+serration+Multishot+bane of grineer+Piercing Hit (same build as my 9second kill before Patch 11 but with primed Chamber instead of Charged)  Seems element mods might be a must vs him.

Crits where about 3.3k with the build I was using.

Edited November 23, 2013 by MindlessWar

[Rompido]

Killed him in 28 seconds using Vectis with Primed chamber+crit mods+serration+Multishot+bane of grineer+Piercing Hit (same build as my 9second kill before Patch 11 but with primed Chamber instead of Charged)  Seems element mods might be a must vs him.

Crits where about 3.3k with the build I was using.

 

OUCH!!!! that is a pretty big drop. perhaps trying elements instead might be the answer.

 

 

well after U11.3 where they introduced the Soma crit buff. I tested out the Soma again, Crit build + bane of grineer and did much much better.

 

C-1  , Time: 15.66

http://youtu.be/H1nbgzlxhJU

 

[Sixty5]

ooooh ok. then its just HP then? because clearly there is something causing it to take longer to kill a lvl 60 vs a lvl 30

HP does still scale, but from what I have heard it is just HP now.

 

I'm still getting the hang of the new model TBH

[Rompido]

Just tested an unmodded Dual Ichor against

 

Lvl 1 Lancer vs Lvl 9 lancer

 

39          vs        35

 

 

So armor, shield, HP still scale with level

 

And after some calculation with the damage reduction formula (Damage Reduction % = (Armor*0.0035)/(1+Armor*0.035), the level 9 Lancer has around 143 armor. So it gained ~40 armor in 8 levels.

 

seems like its armor as well

[Sixty5]

Must be that it scales but reduces at an exponential rate.

That is if I remember how the damage curve looks.

[Freelancer27]

Before Update 11:

• Acrid..................0:3.30

After Update 11:

• Acrid..................0:26.24

Goodbye to the only best weapon of Warframe... so far.

 

Hello, proper builds and stuff.

[Rompido]

Must be that it scales but reduces at an exponential rate.

That is if I remember how the damage curve looks.

 

I would love to see that curving scale if you could find it.

 

 

 

Before Update 11:

• Acrid..................0:3.30

After Update 11:

• Acrid..................0:26.24

Goodbye to the only best weapon of Warframe... so far.

 

Hello, proper builds and stuff.

 

I kinda like the new system. but its still "rainbow" at the end of the day. its just "order of the rainbow" now.

[Definitegj]

I would love to see that curving scale if you could find it.

 

 

 

 

I kinda like the new system. but its still "rainbow" at the end of the day. its just "order of the rainbow" now.

 

 

 

 

In the past still have AP build, now is types of rainbow builds

Edited November 23, 2013 by Definitegj

[Rompido]

Kunai C-1 Time: 22.71
Blast + ele

http://youtu.be/nQmPvjbTth0

 

[Rompido]

 

 

 

In the past still have AP build, now is types of rainbow builds

 

 

OMG I just

 

 

 

 

 

............... seriously i did just ______ in my pants..............

 

 

 

Thank you for this.

[Definitegj]

OMG I just

 

 

 

 

 

............... seriously i did just ______ in my pants..............

 

 

 

Thank you for this.

 

In case you misunderstood, it is not done by me. This is the preview prototype shown in the design councils. Everything except the AP bonus values seems to be exactly the same.

Edited November 23, 2013 by Definitegj