Foxbyte Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 If the trading system is going to be non-existant or very limited I would like to see, at the very least, the ability to transfer platinum between accounts. I'd love to get a friend into the game by buying them something really nifty, or in a recent case a friend of mine missed out on a Reactor because of a miscommunication, so I really would love to buy him one. Any thoughts on Platinum Trading? Would it be a feature worth putting in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G3rman Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Would need heavy regulation, its open for abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkfall Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 if you trust your friend, give him your card to buy some plat with... If you don't, and no one would blame you, tell him to go spend $5.. its not the end of the world. More $ for DE = More $ for Warframe Development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neriglissar Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I'd rather see a platinum gifting service, as in you buy them platinum, instead of trading it to them. Trading has been brought up a lot, it does raise some questions though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volume Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 I'd rather see a platinum gifting service, as in you buy them platinum, instead of trading it to them. Trading has been brought up a lot, it does raise some questions though. Also exploitable, if not a bit less exploitable... LoL had this thing where if someone was on your friends list for a few weeks, they enabled gifting around the holidays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinderain Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Also exploitable, if not a bit less exploitable... LoL had this thing where if someone was on your friends list for a few weeks, they enabled gifting around the holidays... I've never played any MMO that had a gifting system that could be exploited. What kind of bad design would it to take to do that? This is so much learning for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strac_CRO Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 buy-send him a paysafe code Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiokuYun Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Wouldn't people just make new accounts and transfer the starting 50 platinum to their main one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ced23Ric Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 Wouldn't people just make new accounts and transfer the starting 50 platinum to their main one? Can't gift any Platinum below 50. Solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xelorx Posted February 6, 2013 Share Posted February 6, 2013 (edited) Can't gift any Platinum equal to or below 50. Solved. Solved. Sort of. I'd rather have gifting, only that you can not gift with the 50 platinum you start with. It's easily code-able. Edited February 6, 2013 by Xelorx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprizebuttseks Posted February 7, 2013 Share Posted February 7, 2013 YES! please?! a Gifting or Trading system! i have a poor Clan/Guildee who is awesome to play with - just kicks a-- without complaining, helps out all the the lowbies, and doesn't ask for anything. the perfect candidate to gift stuff to! LOL i'm one of those sharing is caring players. I'm not rich, i'm just willing to spend more money than i should on "fun" (then eat sh-t when it comes time to paying iRL bills =P ) I bring this is up because there is a nice chunk of players who share a similar rationale among other excuses, to spend money for the purpose of trading and gifting. Of course we cannot leave out the hustlers either. There are those players who will spend cash for in game credit in order to generate more in game credit. The idea of profiting alone, regardless to the type of reward, drives these players to spend iRL cash in game. All in all, more money for DE = more developed game fun for us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjon01 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) Maybe not an in-game system, but it might be neat to have a gifting option when you're actually buying Platinum. Have it work like gifting games on Steam, just say it's a gift, enter a username, then pay and send it their way. I can't imagine anyone finding a way to exploit something like that, but what do I know? :p EDIT: Oh, look, I guess Neriglissar already suggested it. That'll teach me to skim. Edited February 8, 2013 by mcjon01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renan.Ruivo Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 (edited) #1- Implement Platinum/credits trading/gifting #2- Warframe gets added to gold exchange sites #3- Profit! (for gold selling sites) #4- Loss! (For DE and us) Reason is simple. The more platinum you buy at DE store, the cheaper is the money-for-plat ratio. Gold exchange sites buy the largest bundle in bulk, then apply a slightly increased rate for the lowest amount of platinum sold at DE that costs more than the lowest choice in DE store, but also gives almost as much as the second choice while costing less than the second choice at DE store.. I won't name names, but i used to know people who knew people who worked with gold farming for profit business. So people probably didn't understand the "business model" i explained (i also left out a S#&$ton of details as to not make this a wall of boring business text), but this is how it works. If it didn't, there wouldn't be gold stores. Edited February 8, 2013 by ruivoml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjon01 Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 But with my idea, I don't think there's any mechanism for reselling platinum, is there? Unless I'm missing something. Any time anybody makes a purchase of platinum from DE it would get dropped into somebody's account (either the buyer's or whoever they want to give it to), and from there the only thing you can do with it is spend it in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakalwe Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 Can't gift any Platinum below 50. Solved. Or just make it so only purchased platinum can be traded: solved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrian3k Posted February 8, 2013 Share Posted February 8, 2013 I'd say trading/gifting Platinum isn't a good idea. The best option would be buying as a gift, so you can use your platinum to buy stuff from the market for your mates. That shouldn't have the negative aftertaste that platinum-sellers cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprizebuttseks Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 please implement some sort of trade system. it woud really help you guys generate some more money. i posted here before with a little bit of input but here's some more. last night, i ran a few planets with the clan mate i mentioned previously YES! please?! a Gifting or Trading system! i have a poor Clan/Guildee who is awesome to play with - just kicks a-- without complaining, helps out all the the lowbies, and doesn't ask for anything. the perfect candidate to gift stuff to! LOL i'm one of those sharing is caring players. I'm not rich, i'm just willing to spend more money than i should on "fun" (then eat sh-t when it comes time to paying iRL bills =P ) All in all, more money for DE = more developed game fun for us! loves the game but can't support DE. there's no trading system. i sent the necessary funds required for him to become a Disciple through Paypal - this proved to be hassle in itself. In the end, he was able to get the Plat i wanted to send AND get tagged as a dev supporter =D i know i'm not the only nice player out here. cash in on the "nice players" =) also, an in-game auction house of some sort. maybe non paying players will be able to buy items that were bought by Plat players for Credits instead? or better yet, paying players can sell Plat to free players so free players have another means to access "Plat only" store items. i'd like to hike up the prices (vs. selling to the in game shop for credits) on these MODS i keep having to sell off =P hahahaha like in any MMO with an auction house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renan.Ruivo Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Digital Extremes are game developers. They know how to make games, not (and please forgive me Overlord Rebecca if i'm wrong) how to make money (they have no publisher. And this is the publisher's role). So i wouldn't make something like this without a lot of brainstorming going inside DE and consulting with actual experts with the freemium model. All said, i wouldn't like to see this in the game... yet. I like Warframe too much and i don't want it ot flop. And a move like this is high-risk, and could FUBAR the game to kingdom's come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G3rman Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 If they didn't have any experts on marketing they wouldn't have any of their games on the market, I can tell you that. They are not innocently naive just because they have no publisher, it just means they have no major company that funds them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nEkoz1947547 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 this is a really nice idea we can sell mods that we dont use to other player that would want them for plat ( in my case i have a couple of excaliburs mods that r awesome ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renan.Ruivo Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) If they didn't have any experts on marketing they wouldn't have any of their games on the market, I can tell you that. They are not innocently naive just because they have no publisher, it just means they have no major company that funds them. Oh no, don't get me wrong. I know they have experts in marketing. They just don't have experts in freemium marketing as far as i know (or advertising.. since Digital Extremes is one of the best game-developers in the @(*()$ world but a lot of people have no idea who they are). Edited February 11, 2013 by ruivoml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprizebuttseks Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Digital Extremes are game developers. They know how to make games, not (and please forgive me Overlord Rebecca if i'm wrong) how to make money (they have no publisher. And this is the publisher's role). So i wouldn't make something like this without a lot of brainstorming going inside DE and consulting with actual experts with the freemium model. I'm sure DE has a little department that is on this subject. I have to agree with G3rman that if DE is in any way lacking some sort of Marketing Department, we would not be here right now on this Forum. But I have to agree with you on this part All said, i wouldn't like to see this in the game... yet. I like Warframe too much and i don't want it ot flop. And a move like this is high-risk, and could FUBAR the game to kingdom's come. without the heaviest consideration, a trading system and auction house could potentially send this game south. i'm hoping with lessons learned from other games based on this F2P model and with the input of players, DE can come up with a decently balanced trade system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grimloki Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 This could lead to massive account hacking attempts, to sell the plat to shady players at a discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChaffeemancer Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) I'm sure DE has a little department that is on this subject. I have to agree with G3rman that if DE is in any way lacking some sort of Marketing Department, we would not be here right now on this Forum. Here due to word of mouth, the most free of marketing. Can someone explain how a simple "click here to make this platinum purchase for another player/send the platinum to that player" can be exploited? Edited February 11, 2013 by TheChaffeemancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renan.Ruivo Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) Here due to word of mouth, the most free of marketing. Can someone explain how a simple "click here to make this platinum purchase for another player/send the platinum to that player" can be exploited? I actually sat down for almost two hours and crunched the numbers, trying to make some sort of equation that a gold-site would apply to sell plat there, and directly reply to your question. Nothing works. I know my math.. but i believe that the guy behind the prices on the plat bundes here on DE's is a math genius (Plus, he's ripping you all off US$0,25 cents on the 2100 bundle, just so you know. It should cost US$99,75 according to their ratio. But their ratio is variable, and i couldn't understand the reason......) I can't find a logical conclusion as to how that could be exploited.... and i must admit that while i haven't been involved, i'm very much aware of the math involved behind a lot of gold sales in the various sites. Warframe's Plat store looks bullet-proof as it can get. Edited February 12, 2013 by ruivoml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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