(PSN)Silverback73 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Choice is one of Warframe’s strengths. Some like to figure things out, but there is a difference between skill and not knowing what to do. ”What do I do?” For many of us, not knowing what to do can result in game-breaking immersion and frustration. So give us a choice to stay immersed by having a guide (Lotus, Ordis, Teshin...anyone appropriate) when a new gameplay mechanic appears. Sometimes it just involves more specific guidance. Examples: Exalted Blade Stalker Lua Security Eye Golden Maw Grineer Queen Staffdash-n-grab FIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyro1 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 46 minutes ago, (PS4)Silverback73 said: Choice is one of Warframe’s strengths. Some like to figure things out, but there is a difference between skill and not knowing what to do. ”What do I do?” For many of us, not knowing what to do can result in game-breaking immersion and frustration. So give us a choice to stay immersed by having a guide (Lotus, Ordis, Teshin...anyone appropriate) when a new gameplay mechanic appears. Sometimes it just involves more specific guidance. Examples: Exalted Blade Stalker Lua Security Eye Golden Maw Grineer Queen Staffdash-n-grab FIN Are u saying these are examples of good guidance or examples where a tutorial is needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) Needed. Events and story are only experienced in the moment ONCE. I remember how much the Stalker loop frustrated and tainted the moment for me and have seen experienced youtubers going “?” As well. Im not the only one. Edited March 29, 2018 by (PS4)Silverback73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXDeadsinxX Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) Doubt it would happen, we barely have enough have tutorials in-general. However, more tutorials in Warframe is always a positive. Edited March 29, 2018 by xXDeadsinxX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyro1 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Ok for starters half of these don't even need a tutorial, they either self explanatory, or challenges. Like the Lua Security Eye, that one u are actually given tips on how to beat it, same for the maw, if u can't figure out how to beat it with the tips given look it up. For Stalker, just walk in angles. The last one literally tells u how to beat them. Honestly from the looks of it u aren't paying attention to the lines spoken during the quest. Beside tutorials really aren't needed for most of these since they are quest only, and the ones that are also outside of the quest, they give good enough instruction on how to beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hyro1 said: Ok for starters half of these don't even need a tutorial, they either self explanatory, or challenges. Like the Lua Security Eye, that one u are actually given tips on how to beat it, same for the maw, if u can't figure out how to beat it with the tips given look it up. For Stalker, just walk in angles. The last one literally tells u how to beat them. Honestly from the looks of it u aren't paying attention to the lines spoken during the quest. Beside tutorials really aren't needed for most of these since they are quest only, and the ones that are also outside of the quest, they give good enough instruction on how to beat them. Yes, I expected a response like this. I was paying attention, trust me. And if people want to question/judge how mentally sharp I am or that I need to be spoon-fed, have at it. But you telling me to stop the space-time continuum, jump out of immersion, and go ask Progenitor Cephalon Google...it proves my point. Just one Tenno’s honest experience with feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyro1 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, (PS4)Silverback73 said: Yes, I expected a response like this. I was paying attention, trust me. And if people want to question/judge how mentally sharp I am or that I need to be spoon-fed, have at it. But you telling me to stop the space-time continuum, jump out of immersion, and go ask Progenitor Cephalon Google...it proves my point. Just one Tenno’s honest experience with feedback. Look man I agree that warframe needs more tutorials, but for the things u listed they already explain how to do them in game, sure it would help that u can get these instruction in the codex, but they aren't need for the reasons i stated above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 10 minutes ago, Hyro1 said: Look man I agree that warframe needs more tutorials, but for the things u listed they already explain how to do them in game, sure it would help that u can get these instruction in the codex, but they aren't need for the reasons i stated above If DE were more specific, it would do wonders. ”Get past the Stalker” What my brain interpreted: ”Use the angles to outmaneuver his Exalted Waves like Frogger.” After some minutes of getting banged about, I was thoroughly frustrated. Again, I am not the only one. A more specific instruction like: “You can use your new power to stop his waves!” THIS ^ would have made a huge difference in the experience for me. A subtle, little thing that means the difference between immersion-breaker and great game design. FIN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyro1 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 15 minutes ago, (PS4)Silverback73 said: A more specific instruction like: “You can use your new power to stop his waves!” Then why not asking for better instruction or pointers during quests, because once again a tutorial is not needed. Besides this will probably only apply to future quest since the voice lines are already in the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Hyro1 said: Then why not asking for better instruction or pointers during quests, because once again a tutorial is not needed. Besides this will probably only apply to future quest since the voice lines are already in the game Perhaps tutorial is a bit of a misnomer then? Because that is precisely what I am asking for. If my communication was poor in that regard, apologies. Edited March 29, 2018 by (PS4)Silverback73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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