(PSN)Grimsley_x Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 I believe zaws in conclave are too overpowered, I have seen many players just running around with a dagger zaw and that's all they use, it one shots people. All they do is do a ground slam to stun and the minute you get up 1 shot with their zaw and you're dead. Has anyone else had these problems running into zaws in conclave? Are they balanced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koldraxon-732 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Soul Punch from Nekros, then Tigris Prime the Hek out of them if that's the case but how is it possible that Zaws are this effective in Conclave? DE needs to run another balancing pass on Conclave next time they add anything to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighttide77 Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 On console zaws are probably more dangerous because aiming is more difficult, unlike PC where aiming pretty much rules over melee except in narrow+short halls. There are ways to keep from being knocked down...and it usually has something to do with staying near a wall or using powers. Regardless of the misnomer about the 1-shot (because they ground-slam, which at least makes this a 2-shot), I feel like the best route to balancing them isn't to nerf them, but to make other things equally as powerful. I want to feel powerful in PvP, the same way I feel powerful in PvE. I would also like 'winning' to be based around some other objective than killing the most...and not CTF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazrethim Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Well, Zaw Nikana is the ONLY nikana that actually get kills. And it's somewhat balanced because in order to get two-shot damage you need to wield a 0.6 speed nikana, which is a snail attack speed and easily dodgeable. The other nikanas are nigh useless wet noodles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triplinster Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Nazrethim said: Well, Zaw Nikana is the ONLY nikana that actually get kills. Not really Edit: Oh, you meant "Only Nikana". Sleepy me thought "Only zaw". And now I can't delete 😄 Spoiler Here's some ingame stats of some zaws I've been observing. I don't know what to make of it since I'm not a meele expert. But maybe relevant to discussion. Those hammer zaws tho. Spoiler Edited June 8, 2018 by Triplinster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazrethim Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 hace 6 horas, Triplinster dijo: Not really Edit: Oh, you meant "Only Nikana". Sleepy me thought "Only zaw". And now I can't delete 😄 Yes, only nikanas. You can easily make the comparison. Try to fight a match with a Nikana prime only, and see how many kills you get vs how much you die trying. Then compare to a Zaw Nikana and you see a big spike. Now, you could make a case of Zaws being overpowered anyway, but then you use other weapons that aren't Zaws, and the kill vs death ratio is similar to Zaw Nikana. So basically a custom made Zaw Nikana isn't overpowered, is in the place Nikanas should be to begin with. My Loadouts are all Melee-only, with Ash (a frame that has zero offensive abilities worth using) so I pretty much rely entirely on my melee. My loadous are: Zaw Nikana (formerly Dragon Nikana), Fang Prime, Jat Kittag, Venka Prime, Sigma&Octanis, Kogake, Guandao, Shaku, Karyst and Dakra Prime. All of them have similar kill v death ratio of 1v1.5 on average, all nikanas used to have that, until they were overnerfed, now the ratio is 1v10 (not missing a dot there). Zaw Nikanas? 1v1.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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