This guide is a wall of text, for serious players looking to hunt The Grustrag Three and/or farming the Brakk. Give this full guide a 10 minute read, it might just help you in your struggle.
This link will give you most of the information you need on hunting The Grustrag Three, or G3. Here are the main facts you should have pulled from the wiki:
- You must do 5 invasion missions siding with the Corpus to obtain a death-mark for the G3. - Each G3 member drops a different part needed to complete the Brakk. - Vem Tabook drops the Brakk Blue Print - Shik Tal drops the Brakk Barrel - Leekter drops the Brakk Receiver - The G3 will only appear on Grinner Missions - The G3 corpses can be Desecrated by Nekros.
After the Wiki Page Study
Now, here is where my input comes in. Much of the information given on the wiki page is actually missing or left out of the page. Here are some facts that are missing from the wiki that are generally understood by the Warframe community and that I personally believe and, sadly, some rumors that are extremely questionable:
General Facts that the Warframe Community Understands and Acknowledges:
This list of facts has been either tested and acknowledged by G3 hunters or information that has been given to the Warframe community about the G3.
- The spawn rate for the G3 for an individual player is a Random Number Generated (RNG) chance of 1.5% on any Grineer mission, and +0.5% for any additional marks in your squad. In short, if everyone in your squad is marked, there is a RNG chance of 3% the G3 will spawn in the run.
- The G3 death-marks do not stack. A player can only have one G3 death-mark at any given time.
- When the G3 spawn in, only one play's mark goes away, not the whole team. Also, there is no way of telling who's mark is taken after the G3 arrive. Adding to this fact, if a player is marked and the player is downed by the G3 and put in a locked state by a G3 member, that player's mark will also go away if the battle is lost and the G3 attach a Grustrag Bolt to the player. - The G3 only spawn within the first 4 minutes of the run.
- The G3 can spawn within 4 minutes of a Host migration. I have no screenshot, but this has happened to me. This means if you have been in a mission for 20 minutes, but there is a host migration, the timer for the G3 will restart. - The G3 can spawn after the extermination of all enemies in the run.
- The G3 only spawn in on two types of missions:
1) Grineer missions
2) Orokin Derelict Extermination missions, however, the G3 are limited to Orokin Derelict Extermination because Orokin Derelict Extermination missions are the only Orokin Derelict missions where the Grineer can spawn.
Also, the G3 will still spawn in if the map is not a Grineer tile set. Even if the level/node has a Corpse tiles set, but is a Grineer mission, the G3 still have a chance of spawning in.
- The G3 cannot spawn in Syndicate Missions.
- Some community members feel that the G3 will say the marked player's name of the tenno they are after, however, this is not true. My brother and I hunted the G3 together for a good amount of time in my time hunting the G3. Now, I do not have any screen shots, however, the theory that the G3 will "call their mark out by the player's name" is in fact false. My brother and I were literally sitting an arms length away from one another when the G3 showed up. They said HIS name on HIS SCREEN and MY name on MY SCREEN, at the exact same time, every time the showed up. At this time (14.2), there is no way of telling who's mark is gone after the G3 appear.
Rumors that the Warframe Community Understand as Questionable:
Now, with these facts that are generally understood by the Warframe community comes a great deal of rumors. Let it been known that this "rumors" section of the guide is something I did not want to add to this guide at all. To be perfectly honest, these rumors question the credibility of this guide and do not have any place being in this facts only guide, or in the minds of the Warframe community for that matter. My reasoning for posting these rumors is simple: Do not be deceived by these rumors. Take these rumors for what they really are, understand that there are is no proof or evidence for any of these rumors listed below. Understand that these rumors are not, by any circumstance, true at the time of this guides last update. I will let it be known that these are only the rumors I have heard from players and at the end of some of these rumors, I will give my personally insight on why they are strictly rumors.
Rumor 1 - The G3 will only spawn on mission nods where the enemy level is over 15.
(This a rumor this is just plain wrong.)
Rumor 2 - The Brakk parts have a better chance of dropping on different planets:
Saturn: Brakk Barrel
Ceres: Brakk Receiver
Earth : Brakk Blue Print
(This is a rumor that is just plain wrong. Each Brakk part has a RNG uncommon drop rate from each individual member.)
Rumor 3 - The G3 have a better spawn rate if a player's/squads' conclave rating is low.
(This rumor seems to be everyone's personal favorite. I have quite a bit of issues with this rumor. Firstly, I do not know why anyone would want to fight the G3 with a low conclave level. Now, if lowering your conclave level did help the G3 spawn chances, I would, however this is just a rumor. Secondly, how much would a player have to lower their conclave level to to significantly change the G3 spawn rate? Thirdly, when I hunted the G3, I was a mastery rank 16, with all my warframes and weapons maxed out and polarized just the way I wanted them. This means on average my conclave level was way over 1400 at all times. If this rumor was true, how could a mastery rank 16, having all their warframe and weapons maxed out and polarized, possibly bring down his conclave level without taking off a good amount of warframe and weapon mods? If you understand my meaning, if this rumor was true, mastery rank players level 10 or higher, would be at a disadvantage. With all this being said, this is the most credible rumor out there, however it is still just a rumor. There are no facts to back this claim.)
To understand what I mean by all of this, I will give you my experience hunting the G3. I hunted the G3 for 11 days, estimating 60-70 hours focusing on G3 hunts in hopes of obtaining a Brakk. Without futher set back, let me explain to you the facts that I feel should be taken seriously while hunting the G3.
How I Feel You Should Hunt the G3
First of all, you are not "farming" the G3, you are hunting them. The term "farming" implies that the situation is constant, and the G3 are far from that. When looking for the G3, it truly is a hunt, you do not know when they will show up. So, when looking for a group to hunt with, go to the recruiting tab and type out something like "hunting the G3, please be marked", not "farming the G3, NEED MARKS". The second statement implies that the G3 will come if everyone is marked within the first few games you guys play.
Now, after you get a squad going, just because you said "please be marked", does not mean all the players in your squad are marked. As of U15, players can finally check to see if they themselves are marked, but more importantly see if their squad is marked as well. All you have to do is hover the mouse over the player's name, click "show profile" and read who has marked them for death. Make sure your whole squad is marked and if they are not, it is not that big of a deal because I strongly recommend you run missions on an invasion. What do I mean by this?
As this screenshot shows, this mission node is currently under a Corpus faction invasion.
As this screenshot shows, this mission node is currently under a Grineer faction invasion.
It does not make a difference witch faction the invasion is under. If you side with the Corpus and kill the Grineer, the G3 will have a a chance to spawn in.
With this being said, if you do want to hunt the G3, try to make sure there is an invasion going on at the time. Why should you run invasion missions? To make sure everyone, including yourself, has a mark from the G3 at all times. After running the 5 invasion missions siding with the Corpus and killing the Grineer, you can now have confidence that your whole team is marked by the G3, maximizing the chances of the G3 spawning. However, personally I would keep running the invasion mission.
Why do you keep running the same invasion mission? Remember reading that the G3 can only spawn within the first 4 minutes of the run? First off, running an invasion mission, killing all the Grineer and getting to the exit takes about 4 minutes. To ensure that you maximize the chance for the G3 to spawn in, keep a timer or stop watch with you. Most smart phones have one, if not both. Also, they are easy to find online (http://www.online-stopwatch.com/). If you have a good squad, you guys will get to the exit tile 1 minute or 2 before the 4 minute marker. Do not worry about killing all the Grineer before the 4 minute marker, the G3 will still spawn in. (See screenshot)
I used my iPhone's stop watch and every time the stop watch's time would get to about 3:45, I would tell everyone to leave. This way, by the time you are at the 4 minute mark, everyone will be at the exit and ready for the next run. If you do use this trick, make sure you start the timer the second you are able to move your warframe in game. Do not start the timer in the load screen, or the cinematic at the start of the mission, start the time when you are able to move your warframe.
Also, it should be noted that the G3 sometimes do not spawn too far into the extraction tile. The first lights will flicker around the players, but then they will stop. Your squad might have to walk further away from the extraction point or extraction tile before the G3 spawn in.
The second reason you should just run the same invasion involves consistency and rhythm. While you are hunting the G3, squad members will come and go. If you constantly play the same mission, the remaining group members will not get confused on why you want to play an invasion mission. You have no way of telling if a new squad member is marked by the G3, even if you ask nicely. By endlessly running an invasion mission, you ensure that everyone in your squad will be marked and you are doing everything in your power to maximize the chances of the G3 spawning in that run.
If you follow these strategies, remember, theoretically the G3 will spawn in one time every 33 runs. With a RNG chance of 3%, this is how the math comes out to be. However, this does not mean the G3 will spawn once every 33 runs. They could spawn 3 times in 10 runs, 5 times in 5 runs, 4 times in 50 runs, 1 time in 100 ect. RNG is RNG, that is why you are not farming the G3, you are hunting them. Random is random guys, that is just the way it is.
Specifics of Hunting the G3
Recommended Warframes:
- Nekros: Guys, the only staple in your G3 hunting team should be a Nekros. One that knows how to spam 3 like its his day job. But not only a Nekros that knows how to use the Desecrate ability, but one that knows how to use it at the right time. What do I mean by this? Look at the following link: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Desecrate. More specifically, look under Info and read the 7th bullet point; "Bodies that are cut in half by Slash Damage are treated as two distinct corpses, each with its own chance to yield additional loot". Now, I have seen threads that say the actual enemy as to be alive to be cut in half and for the Desecrate ability to yield more loot. This is a false statement.The corpses can also be cut in half to yield more loot. How do i know this? Because I have tested it, and it works beautifully. I will explain more about this later.
- Ember/Ember Prime: Her World On Fire ability constantly hits the G3, dealing a good amount of damage over time. Also, if she gets down, the World On Fire abailty is still active, meaning she can be down, but not out. Also, the World On Fire ability as a chance to make the G3 catch on fire, rendering that member unable to shoot or move for about three seconds.
- Mesa: To put it simply, she puts out a huge amount of damage in very little time, and can also take just as much, if not more, damage then all the other tank frames in the game. Her Peacemaker ability is great for keeping distance and dealing massive amounts of damage, while her Shatter Shield ability allows her to reduce and deflect damage the G3 might deal.
- Mirage: Not only can her Hall of Mirrors ability prove to have more fire power against the G3, but they can also distract them fairly well. On top of this, her Prism ability tears the G3 apart. If she has the energy to use it you do not have to worry about the fight much because they will be dead before you know it.
- Rhino/ Rhino Prime: His Rhino Stomp ability works great for immobilizing the G3. Plus, Rhinos are tough and they do not go down easy. I could trust any Rhino that came on my team simply because of their unwillingness to go down.
- Vauban: His Bastille ability works great against the G3. If you can find a Vauban that knows what he is doing with bastille, I would pick him up.
These warframes are the best warframes to combat the G3, with the exception of Nekros for obvious reasons.
Not Recommended Warframes:
- Excalibur: Honestly, excalibur is a pretty good frame, however his Radical Javelin ability can send the G3 members' corpses flying, and making it hard fo Nekros to desecrate the bodies.
- Nova/Nova Prime: Nova users, save her for another time. I love my Nova, but even I have an understanding that her Molecular Prime ability can **** everything up. If that ability is used, the corpses will disappear, only giving the Nekros 3 seconds to try and desecrate the bodies. Not a good idea.
- Saryn: I love her too, however, her Miasma ability has the same affect as Nova's Molecular Prime ability. The corpses will disappear, only give Nekros 3 seconds to desecrate.
- Valkyr: I already know I am going to get hate for this one, but it must be said. Guys, every Valkyr players I teamed with got downed in every G3 fight I have ever been in. Yes, I know her Hysteria ability just got a huge buff. Yes, I know she is your favorite warframe. But no, I do not want to team up with someone who is going melee first into some of the strongest melee bosses in the game.
Recommended Weapons:
Primary Weapons:
Guys, use anything that you are comfortable with but make sure it packs a punch. For example, Latron Prime, Soma, Penta, or any pretty good guns that I might have missed. Personally, I used my Latron Prime.
I would not recommend using the Boltor Prime or any bows. When killed by the Boltor Prime or even when the corpses are hit by a bolt or arrow, the bodies go flying and there is no way to tell where the body will go.
Secondary Weapons:
Again, use something that you are comfortable with but also packs a punch. You might get downed in the G3 fight, so you are going to want something that can do some damage. For some of you that might know, getting downed by the G3 is not a fun experience. For those of you that do not know, if you get downed the closest member of the G3 will start running towards you. If they are able to reach you, that G3 member will put you in some kind of locked state (looks something like the player being stuck in a small, yellow shield). This will render the player unable to to shoot, move, and it even stops the player for bleeding out until everyone in your squad is dead or that G3 member that put the player in the locked state is killed.
To help prevent the G3 member from getting to you if you are downed, use a secondary weapon that has fire damage with a high status chance on it. Personally, I found that the Angstrum worked very well. First off, the gun can deal some pretty good damage. Second, the high status chance helped me burn the members of the G3 that were running toward me. This means they get caught on fire, throw their hands up in the air, and scream for a good 3 seconds before the fire goes away.
Melee Weapons:
Your melee weapon is the most important weapon you can use against the G3 but it might not be for the reason you think. Remember how I said to look at that wiki on Nekros's desecrate? Well, here is where that comes in.
When the G3 come, you will most likely kill them. Then what? Desecrate them? Yes, but not right away. Try and kill all the members of the G3 at about the same time. If your squad does manage to do this, use slash based melee weapons to cut up their corpses. I cannot stress this enough, slash based melee weapons. Personally, I used the Glaive Prime. The Glaive Prime is a pretty good melee weapon that has everything you need to cut up the corpses; range and attack speed. If you manage to cut up the body before they disappears in 15 seconds, that Nekros better start spamming 3 on the keyboard. Again, the reason you want to kill all the G3 members about the same time is because their corpses will disappear after the 15 seconds of their death. The reason you are trying to cut up their bodies is because each half of the corpse will have a chance to yield more mods and Brakk parts after a successful desecrate from Nekros.
If you are trying this method, make sure you test it out, get a feel for it. By using a slash melee weapon on corpses you will see that each corpse seems to have a mind of its own. Some will be cut in half after the first slash, others might take a few slashes, and sometimes it seems like the corpses do not want to be slashed in half at all. I would say 9 times out of 10 the corpse will be cut in half and the other 1 time out of 10 the corpse is so stubborn it will not cut in half. This being said, I have never had a G3 corpse be stubborn. Every G3 corpse I have tried to cut in half has slashed right into two pieces within the first few swings.
Also, I should include that this strategy of cutting corpses in half does work with all slash based weapon in the game. If you prefer trying to shot corpses to cut them in half, it is at your disposal. However, I did try this strategy with the Tigris (a slash based shotgun), but found that slashed based melee strategy was much more effective.
What the Brakk Parts Look Like on the Ground
Now, this topic is widely discussed and argued among our Warframe community, and guess what? I have the answer of what the actual Brakk parts look like when dropped by the G3.
Do you see that purple orb in the screen shot? That is what the Brakk Blue Print will look like on the ground. This makes sense because all the blue prints dropped by enemies look like this purple orb on the ground. However, this has lead to much confusion of what the Brakk Barrel and Brakk Receiver look like on the ground. It is something that even confused me when I first started hunting the G3. I also thought the Brakk Barrel and Brakk Receiver would drop as a purple orb, however this is not true. Allow me to explain:
The screenshot above is showing you how a mod and normal resource bin look on the ground with the mod Thief's Wit equipped. As you can see, the mod is glowing. That glow tells you where the mod exactly is; you can see the mod through walls and there is a marker on your mini map where the mod is. Now, look at the resource bin. The resource bin is notglowing, however the mini map function still works the same way. Now, with that in mind look at the next screenshot.
When looking at this screenshot you might notice something different. The resource bin is glowing. Why is the resource bin glowing? This is a resource bin that was dropped by a G3 member, Leekter. Does anyone want to take a guess what was in this resource bin? It was the Brakk Receiver (miss the opportunity to take a screen shot). With that being said, if you have Thief's Wit equipped do not automatically assume it is a Brakk Barrel or Brakk Receiver. All resource bins dropped by the G3 glow if you have Theif's Wit equipped. This is true even if the resource bin contains a neurode.
Now, this raises an interesting question: If you have the Brakk blue print, but still need the Brakk Barrel and Brakk Receiver, would the Resource Booster and/or Resource Drop Chance Booster help a player get a better chance at getting the Brakk Barrel and Receiver? I have not tested this theory, however, I feel that this theory would help a player and his squad get the parts they need and should be tested.
Getting the Brakk was one of my favorite end-game struggles in Warframe to date. I can tell you even though it might have been one of the most frustrating things I have done in Warframe to date, it was necessary.
Guys, we all want the Brakk. Go work for it. Have fun with it. Get a few friends you play with all the time, turn on some music, find an invasion and run it. If you want the Brakk as badly as I did, it will be worth it in the end.
Feel free to respond with any questions, comments, and/or your thank yous on this thread. But, if you think I have false information or think I should add something, let me know and PLEASE HAVE PROOF, especially if it about one of the G3 rumors. Screenshots are great. Screenshot in Warframe with F6 and feel free post your findings in this thread.
If this thread helps even one player get the Brakk, I would have done my job.
Question
Slick_Coalition
Late Guide Update: 2-13-15 (U15.14.1)
Hey guys,
This guide is a wall of text, for serious players looking to hunt The Grustrag Three and/or farming the Brakk. Give this full guide a 10 minute read, it might just help you in your struggle.
For Starters
Read "The Grustrag Three" wiki page, http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/The_Grustrag_Three.
This link will give you most of the information you need on hunting The Grustrag Three, or G3. Here are the main facts you should have pulled from the wiki:
- You must do 5 invasion missions siding with the Corpus to obtain a death-mark for the G3.
- Each G3 member drops a different part needed to complete the Brakk.
- Vem Tabook drops the Brakk Blue Print
- Shik Tal drops the Brakk Barrel
- Leekter drops the Brakk Receiver
- The G3 will only appear on Grinner Missions
- The G3 corpses can be Desecrated by Nekros.
After the Wiki Page Study
Now, here is where my input comes in. Much of the information given on the wiki page is actually missing or left out of the page. Here are some facts that are missing from the wiki that are generally understood by the Warframe community and that I personally believe and, sadly, some rumors that are extremely questionable:
General Facts that the Warframe Community Understands and Acknowledges:
This list of facts has been either tested and acknowledged by G3 hunters or information that has been given to the Warframe community about the G3.
- The spawn rate for the G3 for an individual player is a Random Number Generated (RNG) chance of 1.5% on any Grineer mission, and +0.5% for any additional marks in your squad. In short, if everyone in your squad is marked, there is a RNG chance of 3% the G3 will spawn in the run.
- The G3 death-marks do not stack. A player can only have one G3 death-mark at any given time.
- When the G3 spawn in, only one play's mark goes away, not the whole team. Also, there is no way of telling who's mark is taken after the G3 arrive. Adding to this fact, if a player is marked and the player is downed by the G3 and put in a locked state by a G3 member, that player's mark will also go away if the battle is lost and the G3 attach a Grustrag Bolt to the player.
- The G3 only spawn within the first 4 minutes of the run.
- The G3 can spawn within 4 minutes of a Host migration. I have no screenshot, but this has happened to me. This means if you have been in a mission for 20 minutes, but there is a host migration, the timer for the G3 will restart.
- The G3 can spawn after the extermination of all enemies in the run.
- The G3 only spawn in on two types of missions:
1) Grineer missions
2) Orokin Derelict Extermination missions, however, the G3 are limited to Orokin Derelict Extermination because Orokin Derelict Extermination missions are the only Orokin Derelict missions where the Grineer can spawn.
Also, the G3 will still spawn in if the map is not a Grineer tile set. Even if the level/node has a Corpse tiles set, but is a Grineer mission, the G3 still have a chance of spawning in.
- The G3 cannot spawn in Syndicate Missions.
- Some community members feel that the G3 will say the marked player's name of the tenno they are after, however, this is not true. My brother and I hunted the G3 together for a good amount of time in my time hunting the G3. Now, I do not have any screen shots, however, the theory that the G3 will "call their mark out by the player's name" is in fact false. My brother and I were literally sitting an arms length away from one another when the G3 showed up. They said HIS name on HIS SCREEN and MY name on MY SCREEN, at the exact same time, every time the showed up. At this time (14.2), there is no way of telling who's mark is gone after the G3 appear.
Rumors that the Warframe Community Understand as Questionable:
Now, with these facts that are generally understood by the Warframe community comes a great deal of rumors. Let it been known that this "rumors" section of the guide is something I did not want to add to this guide at all. To be perfectly honest, these rumors question the credibility of this guide and do not have any place being in this facts only guide, or in the minds of the Warframe community for that matter. My reasoning for posting these rumors is simple: Do not be deceived by these rumors. Take these rumors for what they really are, understand that there are is no proof or evidence for any of these rumors listed below. Understand that these rumors are not, by any circumstance, true at the time of this guides last update. I will let it be known that these are only the rumors I have heard from players and at the end of some of these rumors, I will give my personally insight on why they are strictly rumors.
Rumor 1 - The G3 will only spawn on mission nods where the enemy level is over 15.
(This a rumor this is just plain wrong.)
Rumor 2 - The Brakk parts have a better chance of dropping on different planets:
Saturn: Brakk Barrel
Ceres: Brakk Receiver
Earth : Brakk Blue Print
(This is a rumor that is just plain wrong. Each Brakk part has a RNG uncommon drop rate from each individual member.)
Rumor 3 - The G3 have a better spawn rate if a player's/squads' conclave rating is low.
(This rumor seems to be everyone's personal favorite. I have quite a bit of issues with this rumor. Firstly, I do not know why anyone would want to fight the G3 with a low conclave level. Now, if lowering your conclave level did help the G3 spawn chances, I would, however this is just a rumor. Secondly, how much would a player have to lower their conclave level to to significantly change the G3 spawn rate? Thirdly, when I hunted the G3, I was a mastery rank 16, with all my warframes and weapons maxed out and polarized just the way I wanted them. This means on average my conclave level was way over 1400 at all times. If this rumor was true, how could a mastery rank 16, having all their warframe and weapons maxed out and polarized, possibly bring down his conclave level without taking off a good amount of warframe and weapon mods? If you understand my meaning, if this rumor was true, mastery rank players level 10 or higher, would be at a disadvantage. With all this being said, this is the most credible rumor out there, however it is still just a rumor. There are no facts to back this claim.)
To understand what I mean by all of this, I will give you my experience hunting the G3. I hunted the G3 for 11 days, estimating 60-70 hours focusing on G3 hunts in hopes of obtaining a Brakk. Without futher set back, let me explain to you the facts that I feel should be taken seriously while hunting the G3.
How I Feel You Should Hunt the G3
First of all, you are not "farming" the G3, you are hunting them. The term "farming" implies that the situation is constant, and the G3 are far from that. When looking for the G3, it truly is a hunt, you do not know when they will show up. So, when looking for a group to hunt with, go to the recruiting tab and type out something like "hunting the G3, please be marked", not "farming the G3, NEED MARKS". The second statement implies that the G3 will come if everyone is marked within the first few games you guys play.
Now, after you get a squad going, just because you said "please be marked", does not mean all the players in your squad are marked. As of U15, players can finally check to see if they themselves are marked, but more importantly see if their squad is marked as well. All you have to do is hover the mouse over the player's name, click "show profile" and read who has marked them for death. Make sure your whole squad is marked and if they are not, it is not that big of a deal because I strongly recommend you run missions on an invasion. What do I mean by this?
As this screenshot shows, this mission node is currently under a Corpus faction invasion.
As this screenshot shows, this mission node is currently under a Grineer faction invasion.
It does not make a difference witch faction the invasion is under. If you side with the Corpus and kill the Grineer, the G3 will have a a chance to spawn in.
With this being said, if you do want to hunt the G3, try to make sure there is an invasion going on at the time. Why should you run invasion missions? To make sure everyone, including yourself, has a mark from the G3 at all times. After running the 5 invasion missions siding with the Corpus and killing the Grineer, you can now have confidence that your whole team is marked by the G3, maximizing the chances of the G3 spawning. However, personally I would keep running the invasion mission.
Why do you keep running the same invasion mission? Remember reading that the G3 can only spawn within the first 4 minutes of the run? First off, running an invasion mission, killing all the Grineer and getting to the exit takes about 4 minutes. To ensure that you maximize the chance for the G3 to spawn in, keep a timer or stop watch with you. Most smart phones have one, if not both. Also, they are easy to find online (http://www.online-stopwatch.com/). If you have a good squad, you guys will get to the exit tile 1 minute or 2 before the 4 minute marker. Do not worry about killing all the Grineer before the 4 minute marker, the G3 will still spawn in. (See screenshot)
I used my iPhone's stop watch and every time the stop watch's time would get to about 3:45, I would tell everyone to leave. This way, by the time you are at the 4 minute mark, everyone will be at the exit and ready for the next run. If you do use this trick, make sure you start the timer the second you are able to move your warframe in game. Do not start the timer in the load screen, or the cinematic at the start of the mission, start the time when you are able to move your warframe.
Also, it should be noted that the G3 sometimes do not spawn too far into the extraction tile. The first lights will flicker around the players, but then they will stop. Your squad might have to walk further away from the extraction point or extraction tile before the G3 spawn in.
The second reason you should just run the same invasion involves consistency and rhythm. While you are hunting the G3, squad members will come and go. If you constantly play the same mission, the remaining group members will not get confused on why you want to play an invasion mission. You have no way of telling if a new squad member is marked by the G3, even if you ask nicely. By endlessly running an invasion mission, you ensure that everyone in your squad will be marked and you are doing everything in your power to maximize the chances of the G3 spawning in that run.
If you follow these strategies, remember, theoretically the G3 will spawn in one time every 33 runs. With a RNG chance of 3%, this is how the math comes out to be. However, this does not mean the G3 will spawn once every 33 runs. They could spawn 3 times in 10 runs, 5 times in 5 runs, 4 times in 50 runs, 1 time in 100 ect. RNG is RNG, that is why you are not farming the G3, you are hunting them. Random is random guys, that is just the way it is.
Specifics of Hunting the G3
Recommended Warframes:
- Nekros: Guys, the only staple in your G3 hunting team should be a Nekros. One that knows how to spam 3 like its his day job. But not only a Nekros that knows how to use the Desecrate ability, but one that knows how to use it at the right time. What do I mean by this? Look at the following link: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Desecrate. More specifically, look under Info and read the 7th bullet point; "Bodies that are cut in half by Slash Damage are treated as two distinct corpses, each with its own chance to yield additional loot". Now, I have seen threads that say the actual enemy as to be alive to be cut in half and for the Desecrate ability to yield more loot. This is a false statement.The corpses can also be cut in half to yield more loot. How do i know this? Because I have tested it, and it works beautifully. I will explain more about this later.
- Ember/Ember Prime: Her World On Fire ability constantly hits the G3, dealing a good amount of damage over time. Also, if she gets down, the World On Fire abailty is still active, meaning she can be down, but not out. Also, the World On Fire ability as a chance to make the G3 catch on fire, rendering that member unable to shoot or move for about three seconds.
- Mesa: To put it simply, she puts out a huge amount of damage in very little time, and can also take just as much, if not more, damage then all the other tank frames in the game. Her Peacemaker ability is great for keeping distance and dealing massive amounts of damage, while her Shatter Shield ability allows her to reduce and deflect damage the G3 might deal.
- Mirage: Not only can her Hall of Mirrors ability prove to have more fire power against the G3, but they can also distract them fairly well. On top of this, her Prism ability tears the G3 apart. If she has the energy to use it you do not have to worry about the fight much because they will be dead before you know it.
- Rhino/ Rhino Prime: His Rhino Stomp ability works great for immobilizing the G3. Plus, Rhinos are tough and they do not go down easy. I could trust any Rhino that came on my team simply because of their unwillingness to go down.
- Vauban: His Bastille ability works great against the G3. If you can find a Vauban that knows what he is doing with bastille, I would pick him up.
These warframes are the best warframes to combat the G3, with the exception of Nekros for obvious reasons.
Not Recommended Warframes:
- Excalibur: Honestly, excalibur is a pretty good frame, however his Radical Javelin ability can send the G3 members' corpses flying, and making it hard fo Nekros to desecrate the bodies.
- Nova/Nova Prime: Nova users, save her for another time. I love my Nova, but even I have an understanding that her Molecular Prime ability can **** everything up. If that ability is used, the corpses will disappear, only giving the Nekros 3 seconds to try and desecrate the bodies. Not a good idea.
- Saryn: I love her too, however, her Miasma ability has the same affect as Nova's Molecular Prime ability. The corpses will disappear, only give Nekros 3 seconds to desecrate.
- Valkyr: I already know I am going to get hate for this one, but it must be said. Guys, every Valkyr players I teamed with got downed in every G3 fight I have ever been in. Yes, I know her Hysteria ability just got a huge buff. Yes, I know she is your favorite warframe. But no, I do not want to team up with someone who is going melee first into some of the strongest melee bosses in the game.
Recommended Weapons:
Primary Weapons:
Guys, use anything that you are comfortable with but make sure it packs a punch. For example, Latron Prime, Soma, Penta, or any pretty good guns that I might have missed. Personally, I used my Latron Prime.
I would not recommend using the Boltor Prime or any bows. When killed by the Boltor Prime or even when the corpses are hit by a bolt or arrow, the bodies go flying and there is no way to tell where the body will go.
Secondary Weapons:
Again, use something that you are comfortable with but also packs a punch. You might get downed in the G3 fight, so you are going to want something that can do some damage. For some of you that might know, getting downed by the G3 is not a fun experience. For those of you that do not know, if you get downed the closest member of the G3 will start running towards you. If they are able to reach you, that G3 member will put you in some kind of locked state (looks something like the player being stuck in a small, yellow shield). This will render the player unable to to shoot, move, and it even stops the player for bleeding out until everyone in your squad is dead or that G3 member that put the player in the locked state is killed.
To help prevent the G3 member from getting to you if you are downed, use a secondary weapon that has fire damage with a high status chance on it. Personally, I found that the Angstrum worked very well. First off, the gun can deal some pretty good damage. Second, the high status chance helped me burn the members of the G3 that were running toward me. This means they get caught on fire, throw their hands up in the air, and scream for a good 3 seconds before the fire goes away.
Melee Weapons:
Your melee weapon is the most important weapon you can use against the G3 but it might not be for the reason you think. Remember how I said to look at that wiki on Nekros's desecrate? Well, here is where that comes in.
When the G3 come, you will most likely kill them. Then what? Desecrate them? Yes, but not right away. Try and kill all the members of the G3 at about the same time. If your squad does manage to do this, use slash based melee weapons to cut up their corpses. I cannot stress this enough, slash based melee weapons. Personally, I used the Glaive Prime. The Glaive Prime is a pretty good melee weapon that has everything you need to cut up the corpses; range and attack speed. If you manage to cut up the body before they disappears in 15 seconds, that Nekros better start spamming 3 on the keyboard. Again, the reason you want to kill all the G3 members about the same time is because their corpses will disappear after the 15 seconds of their death. The reason you are trying to cut up their bodies is because each half of the corpse will have a chance to yield more mods and Brakk parts after a successful desecrate from Nekros.
If you are trying this method, make sure you test it out, get a feel for it. By using a slash melee weapon on corpses you will see that each corpse seems to have a mind of its own. Some will be cut in half after the first slash, others might take a few slashes, and sometimes it seems like the corpses do not want to be slashed in half at all. I would say 9 times out of 10 the corpse will be cut in half and the other 1 time out of 10 the corpse is so stubborn it will not cut in half. This being said, I have never had a G3 corpse be stubborn. Every G3 corpse I have tried to cut in half has slashed right into two pieces within the first few swings.
Also, I should include that this strategy of cutting corpses in half does work with all slash based weapon in the game. If you prefer trying to shot corpses to cut them in half, it is at your disposal. However, I did try this strategy with the Tigris (a slash based shotgun), but found that slashed based melee strategy was much more effective.
What the Brakk Parts Look Like on the Ground
Now, this topic is widely discussed and argued among our Warframe community, and guess what? I have the answer of what the actual Brakk parts look like when dropped by the G3.
Do you see that purple orb in the screen shot? That is what the Brakk Blue Print will look like on the ground. This makes sense because all the blue prints dropped by enemies look like this purple orb on the ground. However, this has lead to much confusion of what the Brakk Barrel and Brakk Receiver look like on the ground. It is something that even confused me when I first started hunting the G3. I also thought the Brakk Barrel and Brakk Receiver would drop as a purple orb, however this is not true. Allow me to explain:
The screenshot above is showing you how a mod and normal resource bin look on the ground with the mod Thief's Wit equipped. As you can see, the mod is glowing. That glow tells you where the mod exactly is; you can see the mod through walls and there is a marker on your mini map where the mod is. Now, look at the resource bin. The resource bin is not glowing, however the mini map function still works the same way. Now, with that in mind look at the next screenshot.
When looking at this screenshot you might notice something different. The resource bin is glowing. Why is the resource bin glowing? This is a resource bin that was dropped by a G3 member, Leekter. Does anyone want to take a guess what was in this resource bin? It was the Brakk Receiver (miss the opportunity to take a screen shot). With that being said, if you have Thief's Wit equipped do not automatically assume it is a Brakk Barrel or Brakk Receiver. All resource bins dropped by the G3 glow if you have Theif's Wit equipped. This is true even if the resource bin contains a neurode.
Now, this raises an interesting question: If you have the Brakk blue print, but still need the Brakk Barrel and Brakk Receiver, would the Resource Booster and/or Resource Drop Chance Booster help a player get a better chance at getting the Brakk Barrel and Receiver? I have not tested this theory, however, I feel that this theory would help a player and his squad get the parts they need and should be tested.
Final Thoughts
After 11 days, 60-70 hours and over 900 invasion runs hunting the G3, I finally have my Brakk. Here is a link to my thread while I was hunting for the Brakk if interested:https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/288311-hunting-the-brakk/#entry3301890.
Getting the Brakk was one of my favorite end-game struggles in Warframe to date. I can tell you even though it might have been one of the most frustrating things I have done in Warframe to date, it was necessary.
Guys, we all want the Brakk. Go work for it. Have fun with it. Get a few friends you play with all the time, turn on some music, find an invasion and run it. If you want the Brakk as badly as I did, it will be worth it in the end.
Feel free to respond with any questions, comments, and/or your thank yous on this thread. But, if you think I have false information or think I should add something, let me know and PLEASE HAVE PROOF, especially if it about one of the G3 rumors. Screenshots are great. Screenshot in Warframe with F6 and feel free post your findings in this thread.
If this thread helps even one player get the Brakk, I would have done my job.
Happy Hunting.
Late Guide Update: 2-13-15 (U15.14.1)
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