I readed 50% of your comment, i will keep after i came from work 1 hour ago and im really tired
But i see you talk a lot of drop rates, rng, how hard is the game to get some items, readed about toroid new arbitration arcanas, and my answer is literally the same on my first comment.
All of this depends about how many you have to play, if you are a casual player who have a family, work, study and you play 5 hours a week, these drop chances are a nightmare for sure, literally a nightmare and i agree 100% with you in this scenario
But if you have more time, and actually you are pretty addicted of warframe and you really like the RNG, you can find this drop chances really easy to get whatever in the game
Example: I already have all R3 arcanas from arbitration, except one arcane bodyguard i have 7.
I mean there are 2 types of players here
1º You not have time, you not like much farm and RNG and % drop chances, so you pay platinums, you waste 100 dollars and you get everything else "hard" to get like energize R3 (I do 5x3 eidolons to get an arcana energize R3 and grace R3 took like an entire month doing 3 night hunt every day)
2º People who like my teammates of clan, who like this, who find fun this "gamestyle" play a mission 10000 times farm everything else maxed for you, and sell another 100 for platinums for no reason because these players already have 50k+ plats, and they not need farm but they still farming!!!
Let me be clear, this is my very first game of "farming against bots" i allways played competitive games i have 8k hours of dota2, 2k hours of csgo, 1k whatever else in overwatch, what i like is competitive, warframe its like a change my chill game
What i think, my idea about "end game" its pvp, no more else pvp, real endgame need to be pvp a good system of pvp where you need to show your skills, but sadly this community doesnt like the pvp and also the pvp is not veeery nice, need some fixes (the first one around my head, warframe are so fast to hit quake 3 arena are easier to hit)
I dont know everyone have an perspective about the game and what they like about warframe, "what part" of warframe they want to be like: solo eidolon hunters, solo profit taker, solo survival long runs for no reason, but there its a real thing they are making warframe easier, every time much easier, and easy farm means no hours of content, Lets be extreme with a example
You make a new warframe (Gauss), a new primary and secondary weapon (Acceltra and i not remember the name of secondary) you launch the path and in 1 hour of gameplay you have all of three, they work weeks, maybe an entire month to make 3 new gear for the game and you get all of these in an hour, wait this is me some weeks ago when gauss was launched! i got gauss all parts in a single run of 40 min and 30 min after i had both weapons
Toroids ... i have 8 AMPS (yes for no reason) i farmed all toroids, fish, and minery (Some of these from exploiter) and im here 1.5k hours
So you are saying the game is hard because RNG, there are decent % of drops, and im telling you in 1.5k hours i have everyhing ingame maxed, every single warframe builded, 10 warframes with 4 formas+, 10 weapons 6+ formas, 6 zaws, 8 kitguns, 3 moas, kavats, kubrow, every single of these 6 formas+, all arcanes R3, all maxed primed mod, sold like 30 max mod prime, sold like 15 energize, 5 R3 guardian, 10 or whatever else grace, 8 amps, resources to make a new account and start again of 0 with all weapons, 5.5k platinums, wasting 1k pl in formas, wasting an entire week of gameplay doing plague star (got 130 formas, both plague arcanas R3), farmed every single regular warframe ingame, farmed every single primed warframe aviable, bought vaulted with platinums, farmed like 20 mesa prime, 35 adaptation and i can continue and i not remember everything, in 1.5k hours i have everything elsee!!! that means all the content of the game x5 !!!!, i not need 20 mesa prime, i not need 8 amps, clearly i not need keep doing eidolon hunt after 450 hydro caps, and clearly i not need endo, also kuva at this momento because this week after arbitration path i farmed 500k kuva, i want 500k more to keep rolling some bad rivens i have for weaks weapons, but who cares!! free kuvaa!!! from the "horrible and terrible" rewards from new arbitration
Update: I think, i feel im not sure, they nerf the vitus drops, did 40 min of survival and got 25 vitus, maybe im wrong or was a bad run not sure will confirm in some days
So resuming, for a player like me, who have 8.5k hours of dota2, 2000 matches of broodmother being top 1 of dotabuff for months, who not care much repeat the same actions for hours, i have no problem sometimes gets boring you are right, maybe DE need to change rewards from some trash mission with slow rotations, like defense (oh yes people love defense, but excavation are faster, interception are faster, and acually survival are faster in long runs)
What i agree with you: about the endgame its really poor, and i super agree with you about how enemies climb up in arbitration, i cant remember numbers exactly but 90 mins of arbitration survival are lvl 170 and how random you can die (yesterday i died in 30 min of disruption rotation 10 as hildryn with 5.5k shield, literally one shot super random from a corpus nullifier i think or whatever common enemy)
So yes i agree, they need change these one random shoot where you take 10k damage for no reason, and actually thinking a bit deep playing for example 2 hours kuva (my peak was 2.30 hours survival kuva as nekros lvl 0 and atterax lvl 0, what a meme) i found funny and sad at the same time rewards on 20 hours of the game, bundle of 5k credits or whatever else, i mean DE im playing your videogame for 2 hours nonstop give me C rewards everytime or actually give me something special endgame arcanas something special worth to play 2 hours a survival. Special rewards for special players, and in that case i agree about NRG playing 2 hours with 5% drop (im talking about """new content arcanas with super powers""") need to be choosen by me and not a drop like: if i want an R3 Energize v2 need to play 30 hours of survival, 2 hours each, so in that situation i think "hey actually this arcana is pretty good works great for my banshee dps, and actually makes my banshee more viable to play!"
I dont know its my idea, warframe is easy for me, requires time, but its a really easy game, when i start warframe i said "hey this is a game for 10 minutes, you do whatever content in game in 10 minutes) and i was not wrong you can do a tridolon in 9 min, you can do a profit taker in 5 min, we are playing literally the game of 10 minutes so, maybe this is why the game say "hey i will not play an hour of survival" because from start the idea of the game is 10 min
PD: Average of dota2 match is 30-40 min, want a deep comment of dota, you see people spamming the same meta heroe for 3 months, doing the same thing, playing the same way same items, doing almost the same clicks pressing the same keys
Why dota still super popular after all of this?, because when you start to play dota you understenad the game its really hard and you understeand the game its 40min, no surprise, nobody crying, you are going to play dota, prepare your 40 minutes of stress
My secret about warframe: Play all the content, you not have khora, octavia and nidus. Do 30 min today of nidus farm, then jump to syndicates, then to fortuna. go sleep repeat. when you have nidus fortuna and syndcates, change, every time change your objetive
When you have everything like my case, the only objetive you have is: get every single riven in meta or weapons you like with godlike stats with max stats
oh god was pretty long comment, this is my perspective i not take numbers like you because NRG are random, can be easy or hard, maybe im lucky but i felt the entire game was quick and easy, or maybe i just had fun doing these missions
After my kuva farm and rerolled all my rivens, only content i will do maybe will be hunts and long arbitration, this is why i want a pvp, but like i said on top nobody like pvp