__Kanade__ Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) Didn't the devs say that they were trying to REDUCE the amount of GRINDING you had to do in the game in one of the past livestreams? Doubling the amount of farming for this and that, then hoping for Golem to actually drop a bp to make all that grinding worth it? Nekros needs to get his abilities looked at again, he isn't worth the grind much less the 375 plat. He needs an overhaul before his grind or his plat cost is worth it. Edited September 14, 2013 by __Kanade__ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris9428 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Why'd Nekros need an overhaul? Just because he doesn't onehit everything doesn't make him in need of an overhaul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) Yeah once upon a time they said they wanted to reduce the grind in this game. Seems like that was said in an alternate universe. edit: Oh, and he's 375 plat, which is what, $25? Edited September 14, 2013 by KvotheTheArcane1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlchemistMute Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Why'd Nekros need an overhaul? Just because he doesn't onehit everything doesn't make him in need of an overhaul. I agree with this. His #1 deals a nice amount of damage and more importantly removes some armor, his #2 is good crowd control, his #3 maybe be a bit lackluster IMO, and his #4 is essentially a radial Mind Control. Only his #3 needs to be more useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakhesys Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) I think DE overdid it this time. We have to farm Golem Nav coordinates, which are droped in Derelict tilesets, which are only accessed through farming Nav Coordinates. So we farm 5 coords for us to try to farm 5 special coords for us to access the minimal chance to get any of the BPs EDIT : We actually need. Well played DE, you'll get tons of plat from the Nekros buyers. Edited September 14, 2013 by Lakhesys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValhaHazred Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) I disagree with calling this grind. Yes it takes a bit of farming mats, but since there is a 100% chance of Golem-2000 giving bps it's actually less bad. Whould you rather go to any level and pick up parts to go for a guaranteed reward or fight the same guy 200 times for a 0.6% drop? minimal chance to get any of the BPs. This is flat out wrong. Golem doesn't drop a bp at all, it's rewarded at the end of his level, with a 33% chance for each peice. He also drops 10ish mods all at once. Edited September 14, 2013 by ValhaHazred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris9428 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I disagree with calling this grind. Yes it takes a bit of farming mats, but since there is a 100% chance of Golem-2000 giving bps it's actually less bad. Whould you rather go to any level and pick up parts to go for a guaranteed reward or fight the same guy 200 times for a 0.6% drop? ^ Chances can be A******s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgacus Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I agree with this. His #1 deals a nice amount of damage and more importantly removes some armor, his #2 is good crowd control, his #3 maybe be a bit lackluster IMO, and his #4 is essentially a radial Mind Control. Only his #3 needs to be more useful. Just to clarify, I don't think his #4 is like a radial MC because it doesn't res bodies around you. It actually summons mobs you've killed previously. Which means you can summon them anytime. I think so anyway :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I disagree with calling this grind. Yes it takes a bit of farming mats, but since there is a 100% chance of Golem-2000 giving bps it's actually less bad. Whould you rather go to any level and pick up parts to go for a guaranteed reward or fight the same guy 200 times for a 0.6% drop? Doesn't mean you'll get the BP you're looking for, especially if, like all the other frames, one bit has a smaller chance than the others to drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestus Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Burnout is best out from game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus730 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Doesn't mean you'll get the BP you're looking for, especially if, like all the other frames, one bit has a smaller chance than the others to drop. You mean nerckos is like prime frames? This should be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtfulPanda Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I agree with this. His #1 deals a nice amount of damage and more importantly removes some armor, his #2 is good crowd control, his #3 maybe be a bit lackluster IMO, and his #4 is essentially a radial Mind Control. Only his #3 needs to be more useful. his 4º is kinda useless: he can only make up to 8 clones, and they don't even get stronger, IMO Nyx chaos is better (yes I know, they can hit you but her skill radius is so long that chaos affect hell more enemies ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris9428 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 his 4º is kinda useless: he can only make up to 8 clones, and they don't even get stronger, IMO Nyx chaos is better (yes I know, they can hit you but her skill radius is so long that chaos affect hell more enemies ) Your teammates can't kill the clones and you can clone shield ospreys, fusion moa ospreys, ancient healers etc. It depends, both have pros and contras, but none of them are useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpseshock Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 You guys are missing the point by discussing about Nekros abilities. NEKROS-GRINDFEST NEEDS A NERF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 You mean nerckos is like prime frames? This should be easy. What? No, like all frames that drop from a boss, one bit is always super rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trancemaster Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 You guys are missing the point by discussing about Nekros abilities. NEKROS-GRINDFEST NEEDS A NERF go cry someplace else. Got all 3 BPs for Nekro in less then 5 hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlchemistMute Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 go cry someplace else. Got all 3 BPs for Nekro in less then 5 hours That is literally impossible unless you get carried into the missions through other players. You need at least 6 hours to craft one J-2000 key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 That is literally impossible unless you get carried into the missions through other players. You need at least 6 hours to craft one J-2000 key. They changed it recently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak_Gohae Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Didn't the devs say that they were trying to REDUCE the amount of GRINDING you had to do in the game in one of the past livestreams? Doubling the amount of farming for this and that, then hoping for Golem to actually drop a bp to make all that grinding worth it? Nekros needs to get his abilities looked at again, he isn't worth the grind much less the 375 plat. He needs an overhaul before his grind or his plat cost is worth it. Can we get some suggestions from you? Cause the game obviously need a bit of a cushion so DE has time to get new stuff in. If there wasnt a cushion people would be here complaining about there being nothing to do. They have to strike a balance. How instead of yet another, "You suck, DE!" Post, how about we offer some ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtfulPanda Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 That is literally impossible unless you get carried into the missions through other players. You need at least 6 hours to craft one J-2000 key. it's 3 hours , and i already got it too, my clan rushed the bp for the golem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlchemistMute Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) it's 3 hours , and i already got it too, my clan rushed the bp for the golem No, you don't get it. 3 hours for the normal Derelict key, which you need for Golem Navs, and then an extra 3 hours for the J-2000 key. EDIT: I took a look again and apparently normal Derelict keys are only 1 hour. Forgive me. Edited September 14, 2013 by AlchemistMute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 No, you don't get it. 3 hours for the normal Derelict key, which you need for Golem Navs, and then an extra 3 hours for the J-2000 key. He rushed the boss key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetergentPod Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 He rushed the boss key. Doesn't that cost plat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KvotheTheArcane1 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Doesn't that cost plat? ...so? He spent plat on it? How does that stop him from rushing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetergentPod Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 ...so? He spent plat on it? How does that stop him from rushing it? I never said anything about stopping him from rushing plat. I was only confirming whether or not that cost plat. The Corpus Void Keys were free if you want to rush it. No need to sound so aggressive from 1 question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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