Did DE close loot tables for new drops?

[artoba84]

Today I only get ENDO rewards per round for defence and other artbitrations. I completed about 60 rounds def. and got only endo with sculptures each time.

Edited September 19, 2019 by artoba84

[Lazarow]

arbitration are an endo and sculpture farm I dont know what you are expecting

[artoba84]

5 minutes ago, Lazarow said:

arbitration are an endo and sculpture farm I dont know what you are expecting

 

5 minutes ago, slotschii said:

well i guess more power to you. thats what ppl go into arbitrations for.

• Reduced Endo Rewards drop percentage in the drop tables. Rare non-endo reward drop rates are unchanged - you’ll just get twice as many chances!
  
  Well, depend on new rewards we shouldn't get a lot of Endo rewards but still.

[artoba84]

I did several different runs and wonder why all rounds always drops Endo. Beside they drop to Endo reward chance from in the drop tables.

"Reduced Endo Rewards drop percentage in the drop tables. Rare non-endo reward drop rates are unchanged - you’ll just get twice as many chances!"

[Wyrmius_Prime]

1 hour ago, artoba84 said:

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If you did several runs, it would really nice to see all the results because at the moment this thread and your screenshot do not bear any statistical value or weight in terms of the drop table.

[artoba84]

9 minutes ago, Wyrmius_Prime said:

If you did several runs, it would really nice to see all the results because at the moment this thread and your screenshot do not bear any statistical value or weight in terms of the drop table.

I just done this one right now (in the image) and all rounds keep rewarded as Endo rewards. Well they nerfed Endo rewards but it seems not. And I'm keep farming these arbits all day. If I didn't see something unusual after patch notes which I read, I wouldn't  come here to open a post about it. Beside you want to see more statics right? If you act like that to other players post you can never see people come to here report these things or try to explain their troubles. That's why I was avoiding come to forums to open post because some people(!) are trying to make fun of it! (or being bully) I believe many other players also avoiding to tell their observation in the forums 'cause of toxic responses!

Well, some people choice to play in the game, some people only play in the forums. I prefer avoid from forums at this point.

[Velothed]

1 hour ago, Vethalon said:

First, the Old vs the New droprates:


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Rotation A


1300 Endo (36.50%) > 900 Endo (40%)


Ayatan Valana Sculpture (18.00%) > (9%)


Ayatan Sah Sculpture (18.00%) > (9%)


Ayatan Ayr Sculpture (18.00%) > (9%)


Sharpshooter (2.00%) > (0%) ???


Vigorous Swap (2.00%)


Rolling Guard (2.00%)


Adaptation (2.00%)


Aura Forma Blueprint (1.50%) > (1%)


new drops


3X Vitus Essence > (7%)


Arcane Bodyguard > (5%)


Arcane Pistoleer > (5%)


Arcane Tanker > (5%)
Aerodynamic > (2%)


Combat Discipline > (2%)

Rotation B


1600 Endo (48.00%) > 1200 Endo (39.5%)


Ayatan Vaya Sculpture (20.00%) > (12%)


Ayatan Piv Sculpture (20.00%) > (12%)


Sharpshooter (2.50%) > (0%) ???


Vigorous Swap (2.50%)


Rolling Guard (2.50%)


Adaptation (2.50%)


Aura Forma Blueprint (2.00%)

new drops


3X Vitus Essence > (7%)


Arcane Blade Charger > (5%)


Arcane Bodyguard > (5%)


Arcane Primary Charger > (5%)


Combat Discipline > (2.50%)


Shepherd > (2.50%)

Rotation C


2000 Endo (47.50%) > 1500 Endo (29.5%)


Ayatan Orta Sculpture (29.00%) > (20%)


Sharpshooter (3.50%) > (0%) ???


Vigorous Swap (3.50%) > (0%)


Rolling Guard (3.50%)


Adaptation (3.50%) > (0%)


Seeding Step Ephemera Blueprint (5.00%)


Aura Forma Blueprint (4.50%)

new drops


3X Vitus Essence > (7%)


Arcane Blade Charger > (5%)


Arcane Pistoleer > (5%)


Arcane Primary Charger > (5%)


Arcane Tanker > (5%)


Combat Discipline > (4.5%)


Melee Guidance > (4.5%)


Swift Momentum > (4.5%)


Calculation:


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Endo:

Old:

A: 1300 × 0.365 = 474.5 Average Endo per rotation


B: 1600 x 0.48 = 768 Average Endo per rotation


😄 2000 x 0.475 = 950 Average Endo per rotation

New:

A: 900 x 0.4 x 2 = 720 Average Endo per 2 rotations


B: 1200 x 0.395 x 2 = 948 Average Endo per 2 rotations


😄 1500 × 0.295 × 2 = 885 Average Endo per 2 rotations

Ayatan:

Old:

A: 0.18 + 0.18 + 0.18 = 0.54 Chance for 1 Ayaan Statue per rotation


B: 0.2 + 0.2 = 0.4 Chance for 1 Ayaan Statue per rotation


😄 0.29 = 0.29 Chance for 1 Ayaan Statue per rotation


New:

A: 0.09 + 0.09 + 0.09 x 2 = 0.54 Chance for 1 Ayaan Statue per 2 rotations


B: 0.12 + 0.12 x 2 = 0.44 Chance for 1 Ayaan Statue per 2 rotations


😄 0.2 x 2 = 0.4 Chance for 1 Ayaan Statue per 2 rotations



You might notice, that we now get more endo from A and B rotations than before (on average) and less from C rotations, but not so fast!

Ayatan statues become more common in B rotation and a lot more in C rotations.

Now to combine those findings.


If we never fuse any stars to our Ayatans and trade them in for end as they are, we get the following average amounts of end for 1 old C rotation VS 2 new C rotations:


Old: 950 + (0.29 x 650) = 1138.5 Average Endo per C rotation

New: 885 + (0.4 x 650) = 1145 Average Endo per 2 C rotations


As you can see we get a lot more Endo in A and B rotations and a bit more in C rotations.
 So calm your horses everyone...

Endo rewards haven't been nerved, despite the whining of so many people here.

As for you only getting endo and Ayatan, I'd guess it's simply rng, I mean the chances to get something other than Endo and Ayatans are:

Rotation A: 33%

Rotation B: 36.5%

Rotation 😄 50.5%

So depending on how many Arbies you've run since the change, it's not even in outlier territory.

The chances to get only endo and Ayatan in 6 rotations (till the second C) is still >4%

Edited September 19, 2019 by Vethalon

[(PSN)Quantaminum]

5 hours ago, artoba84 said:

Well they nerfed Endo rewards but it seems not.

You need to check the actual drop chances.

"Reduced Endo drop chance" doesn't mean that you have a <2% chance to get Endo now. They reduced the drop chance a bit, but it's still pretty high.

You didn't point anything weird.

 

Edited September 19, 2019 by (PS4)Quantaminum