Arodisi Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Mastery Level 0 Weapon Type Secondary Trigger Type Semi-Auto Projectile Speed 200 Damage Type Bullet Damage 85.0 Crit Chance 0% Firing Rate 2 shots/sec Accuracy 16 Clip 8 rounds/clip Reload Time 3s Conclave Rating 10 Polarities None The Seer Pistol is an easily attainable pistol in the first few levels of your Warframe. The blue print, barrel and receiver can be obtained from killing Captain Vor. [My Thoughts] I thought this pistol would be better than it actually is. I've leveled it up (Level 15) and I would think by that point it would start to get better. However despite using some damage mods it still seems to be lacking something. Additionally the accuracy on this gun is not the greatest even though I take my time with my shots. Lastly I believe the biggest problem of all would be the fire rate of this gun. If anything could be changed about this gun to make it drastically better I think the fire rate would be a great place to start. [Example] Instead of a semi-automatic action how about the Dev team either fully changes or gives the option to have a burst-fire system. This way you could adhere to various play styles satisfying players on both spectrum. The base damage would stay the same (as long as they aimed in the chest area) and each shot would be worth 28.3 (x) 3 (three being the burst-fire mode which would equal the base damage of 85 in the semi-automatic action version). [Concluding Thoughts] I'd like to stress these are just my thoughts. Nothing that I say is concrete and I'd love to talk about ideas with anyone who would like to talk about it. Edited October 19, 2013 by Arodisi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValhaHazred Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Blech, I like Seer the way it is. In fact it's my second favourite pistol. As for the specific mechanics you've come up with, they're too close to the Ballistica. Like, identical to the Ballistica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arodisi Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 As for the specific mechanics you've come up with, they're too close to the Ballistica. Like, identical to the Ballistica. You've hit the nail on the head there. That's exactly what I was thinking when I wrote it. It's just an idea, provides another option right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davoodoo Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Warframe got its own w40k bolt pistol(scoped version but whatever) and you want to change it?? You gonna burn in the name of the Emperor heretic. But seriously only thing which i dont like is huge zoom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WondahBoah Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) They just need to add a small AoE as suggested by the animation. that can help make up for its lackluster performance. In any case, it's a trophy for newbies, I dunno if it was intended to be taken anywhere past Venus Edited October 19, 2013 by WondahBoah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 It's a sniper pistol, not a burst fire one. The reason it sucks at level 15 is because it has no polarities. Add Lethal Torrent, Multishot, Hornet as well as a recoil reducer and a stunning speed mod, and tell me what you think then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arodisi Posted October 19, 2013 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 It's a sniper pistol, not a burst fire one. The reason it sucks at level 15 is because it has no polarities. Add Lethal Torrent, Multishot, Hornet as well as a recoil reducer and a stunning speed mod, and tell me what you think then. I've added some of these and the performance of the item has increased very much so. I still think the item is missing something though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STAB_Stone Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) I don't know my seer can deal damage more than 1000 in one shot.... Edited October 20, 2013 by STAB_Stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N7Arthur Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Do you have a maxed No Return on it? The Seer may have good damage, but it doesn't ignore armor, that 90% extra AP damage helps a lot, OP, mind posting a screenshot of your build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STAB_Stone Posted October 20, 2013 Share Posted October 20, 2013 This is my build. Use 3 forma Base damage 816 Max Hornet strike Max Icestrom Max No return Max Heat charged Max Barrel diffusion Max Lethal torrent Max Quickdraw Max Thick Mag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValhaHazred Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Wait until armor 2.0 before wanting things changed anyway. With the trade-off in damage for armour piercing and the one base or combined element at a time thing, Seer's high impact damage is going to make it the single best pistol against high hp soft-targets in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydrium Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) Warframe got its own w40k bolt pistol(scoped version but whatever) and you want to change it?? You gonna burn in the name of the Emperor heretic. But seriously only thing which i dont like is huge zoom. Holy hell I never noticed it until you said something. Brb, going Saryn and equipping Synapse, Seer and Dual Ichor and killing Grineer and Corpus (but not infested) in Nurgles name. Edited October 21, 2013 by Hydrium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penthos Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 (edited) This is my build. Use 3 forma Base damage 816 Max Hornet strike Max Icestrom Max No return Max Heat charged Max Barrel diffusion Max Lethal torrent Max Quickdraw Max Thick Mag Hm, not a bad build for 3 forma. My build has: Hornet Strike 7 No Return Max Barrel Diffusion Max Gunslinger Max Lethal Torrent Max Magnum Force 5 Ice Storm Max Quickdraw 4 503 damage Anyways, you can't get a good grasp of how a weapon is unless you've reached 30 with it, especially if it doesn't have polarities. A lot of people say the Dera and the Supra aren't good weapons (suck, more specifically), and many say the same with the Seer as well. It is not good out of the box, but if you give it enough love it is a pretty good secondary if you are sick of throwing weapons. If there is a downside to this weapon it is that at higher levels the lack of armor negating damage will show itself. Edited October 21, 2013 by Penthos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrismBlack Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Personally I would hate the Seer be changed truly I like it the way it is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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