Vallerian Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I'm pretty sure Stalker's supposed to be a scary threat, not another Grineer chump you farm for items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADJCENT Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I was in a 4 man squad during capturing a node for the new event when suddenly the stalker appeared and killed me and 3 others before we killed him. It seems that if he downs you a second time it will instead kill you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinLaoBuFlyLikeAG6 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 On one of my alert missions, he was LITERALLY UNKILLABLE. His health wouldn't even fall when I shot him. OGRIS/ACRID/DUAL ICHORS and all ULTI frame attacks and concentrative attacks like antimatterdrop WHERE 4 players constantly spammed at it didn't even scratch the stalker. Am I supposed to run or even try and kill it? I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrybatog Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 On one of my alert missions, he was LITERALLY UNKILLABLE. His health wouldn't even fall when I shot him. OGRIS/ACRID/DUAL ICHORS and all ULTI frame attacks and concentrative attacks like antimatterdrop WHERE 4 players constantly spammed at it didn't even scratch the stalker. Am I supposed to run or even try and kill it? I dunno. He was casting nyx ult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHarlequin Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 He is using a variety of abilities. Quite simply, if you aren't specifically prepped for the stalker, and your group isn't getting ready when he shows up, then everyone is probably dropping a revive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringwoodSlasher Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 well, on earlier patches being loki with a potatoed strun meant a dead stalker... now i have no chance because of dispelled invisibility + one hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSmash Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Over the time, we have seen the changes to the stalker. From weapons to abilities but never the AI. Older postings, people have requested that the stlaker to be more "challenging". What we have today in u11, from the 2 pages worth of replies, it seems like stalker is now a "god-like". Previously, if you think the stalker was a joke, now its a bad joke. Due to the limitation on the AI department, this is the work-around? Proposed changes? that they have given the stalker to be so called more "challenging". You know what, if i have to nuke my way out to be alive. I cannot consider that to be challenge anymore rather, Its a matter of dramatic survival. because without a nuke, i cannot be alive. and if i dont have a nuke, i might as well give up and stay down. because no matter what weapon/ability/skill wise/tricks/people you have, you are still going to be dead. The community has been raising their concerns on "powercreep" around U9. Raising stats/buffing stats is not the solution and will not give players a more "challenging" experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagisawa Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I'm sorry but that sounds awesome Really? He comes in, insta-kills you and then vanishes sounds... Fun to you? I guess I'm just not masochistic enough to see it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz0411 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Well this stalker is going to make me quit playing this game and I'm a grand master founder. He kills you and its insta revive is in my opinion a theft of revives!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zareek Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 i love how this thread consist of 2 kind of people, the people who havent fought him since U11, and people who agree with me. I told you already that I have met him twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwiceDead Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Excuse me, Stalker isn't a challenge at all, he's straight up unfair and borderline cheats. In the Dark Souls pvp Community, he'd be the type who uses Giant's + Daddy mask +Ring of FaP + DWGR while having near-infinite stamina (Grass Crest Shield + the stamina regen buff consumable) and ninja flips and uses a Chaoshander. This would be while everyone else is using a more thematic/cosplay build. Dark Souls PvP was broken anyway due to the million lag-stabs you'd encounter whenever you invaded or were invaded. The net-code in that game was garbage. Technically, it's not cheating as long as it's a part of the game and can be achieved through fair means. Some spell and item combinations in Dark Souls were just not intended for PvP, and some people liked to abuse those ridiculously powerful builds. But yeah, the Stalker needs to telepath his abilities a bit more, and dodging should have invincibility frames. LIKE DARK SOULS! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liminal Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Good to know it wasn't just me that got obliterated. I put 22 Sobek shells in his face before he managed to connect a couple of arrows (which dealt more than 1400 damage). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revel72 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Wow... A lot of Soma noobs in move. Dude... Stalker's weakness are these following things. Anticipation, Preparing, Knowledge of skill set and moves, Nuke weaponry, Forcing him to go melee and knowing what he dispels from you. Mainly Frost is a champion against Stalker a lot of health, armor and warframe what must be confronted on close quarters combat. Currently I am mostly keeping Brakk on my pocket because of Stalker. I think this thread is just full of Soma noobs who didn't anticipate him and got killed on off guard. Good thing that Soma and Acrid where nerfed. No more W+M1 champion level weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaTooKa Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 so.... anyone tried to come up with a good strategy to defeat him? his god-like abilities sound very interesting from what I'm reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revel72 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 so.... anyone tried to come up with a good strategy to defeat him? his god-like abilities sound very interesting from what I'm reading. Loki outrunning and dodging until he looses patience and starts to go shooting mode with Dread or Despair. Frost snow globe. Gloves off show off time. (I know that he is immune to the slow effect but he will engage melee mode soon as you come too close) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NalkorRN Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 so.... anyone tried to come up with a good strategy to defeat him? his god-like abilities sound very interesting from what I'm reading. Stand on a crate. His abilities aren't interesting, they're just cheap and not fun to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liminal Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Stand on a crate. Also: don't even think of equipping Shade. It will get you killed by trying to cloak you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NalkorRN Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Also: don't even think of equipping Shade. It will get you killed by trying to cloak you. Well that just sucks even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eStecko Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Just a small correction, he would be over level 100 in pre-11 if 40 is around level 100. Also i just got 2 shot by his Dread with 1200/300 on Mag. Was playing with friend and after the kill he goes after another players (won't target revived players by the looks of it). So after a double kill he has gone away with ~70% hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juuu Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Stalker is extraordinarily unfair against squishy frames and frames that are leveling up. The whole point of squishy frames being as they are is that it's usually offset by their abilities. Since Stalker can just ignore these abilities, it's a waste of revives. Standing on the box doesn't mitigate this either. On top of that, it's difficult to prepare for the Stalker because of his random appearances. Who cares if Frost might possibly be the best against the Stalker if I'm playing Loki right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayraclus Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I think they actually forgot to reduce the stalker's level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eStecko Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Using an exploit (standing on a box and abusing bullets coming out of camera instead of weapon - which is another problem in itself) to defeat a "boss" monster is not a real solution... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick720 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Its a shame that people are losing their S#&$ over this. Again. "Stalker is too weak!" everyone cries. So they buff him. "stalker is too strong!" comes another cry, so they will nerf him. Hell, can we at least like give it a @(*()$ week before we decide that stalker is stupidly broken again? You nerf him and then he becomes the random punching bag again. Mildly challenging to new players, but a hilarious joke to everyone else. Right now, I am terrified of stalker. This is a damn good thing. If I see the lights flicker, I want to be like "crap crap crap, I am so f*cked now". Stalker is a hunter. The only change I would implement on him now is scaling by number of players. He is a breath of fresh air when playing with a group, meaning that its nice to have an enemy that actually poses a very legitimate threat, but going solo, his attack patterns and damage are a bit obscene, especially when playing a squishier frame. Also why is his dispell a bad thing? I mean most of the ults in the game just obliterate enemies, why is it suddenly unfair that you can't just spam them against this guy? I approve of stalker. Not because he is challenging, but because he is f*cking scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NalkorRN Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Its a shame that people are losing their S#&$ over this. Again. "Stalker is too weak!" everyone cries. So they buff him. "stalker is too strong!" comes another cry, so they will nerf him. Hell, can we at least like give it a @(*()$ week before we decide that stalker is stupidly broken again? You nerf him and then he becomes the random punching bag again. Mildly challenging to new players, but a hilarious joke to everyone else. Right now, I am terrified of stalker. This is a damn good thing. If I see the lights flicker, I want to be like "crap crap crap, I am so f*cked now". Stalker is a hunter. The only change I would implement on him now is scaling by number of players. He is a breath of fresh air when playing with a group, meaning that its nice to have an enemy that actually poses a very legitimate threat, but going solo, his attack patterns and damage are a bit obscene, especially when playing a squishier frame. Also why is his dispell a bad thing? I mean most of the ults in the game just obliterate enemies, why is it suddenly unfair that you can't just spam them against this guy? I approve of stalker. Not because he is challenging, but because he is f*cking scary. Being able to nullify a warframe's abilities using cheap means (especially since it looks like Zanuka will be doing the same) doesn't make him challenging. He just turns the session from an awesome space-ninja game into a mediocre TPS who can practically one-shot you because he's locked in at level 50 and the recent changes makes him effectively level 100 and it's not fun fighting something that ignores the previously established game mechanics. He's not scary, he's just cheap and eats up revives. If I want to be terrified of an enemy, I'll happily boot up S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat and go into Bloodsucker or Chimera territory at the dead of night in the Pripyat zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsukinoki Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 (edited) @Boomstick720 My problem with stalker? You happen to have shade equipped and the stalker decides to target you. He will appear then cast dispel if shade is cloaking you. You're stunned and suffer 100 damage and he hits you. Shade re-cloaks you and the cycle repeats until you are dead (EDIT: If you're in a frame that can survive the initial slash-dash). Simply because you brought a sentinal and had no idea stalker would attack you then. Edited November 21, 2013 by Tsukinoki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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