OneOhOne Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 So, I love using shotguns because of all the ultra-fancy numbers on my screen when I shoot enemies in the face with them, and own every single shotgun that currently exists in the game other than the Straith. However, when the Strun Wraith (arguably the most powerful shotgun in the game) was available via event reward, I was out of town for the full time of the event.Is there any chance that DE could consider making it available through some other means, such as a future event or some kind of stalker-esque spawn? Now, keep in mind I'm not asking for a freebee, and would rather enjoy a challenge for getting it. Maybe make it something like double the required time that was required in the survival event (40mins of time in a survival game)? I don't know what everyone else thinks of this, but it would be incredibly satisfying to earn the weapon in such a way, and I feel the difficulty would fit the reward.Thanks for taking the time to read my request! If this happened, it would be greatly appreciated several times over. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonvision Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 dont expect a event reward to become permanently available from farming, they're event rewards, the best is to hope for DE to have another event that gives the strun wraith, chances are unlikely though. one thing you have to understand is people worked for a event reward DURING the event, and it's ought to anger those people who spent the effort if DE then releases it normally, even if it's very hard to obtain normally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shifted Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I doubt you'll get a chance to get strun wraith again but I wouldn't be surprised if a new, more powerful shotgun would make an appearance in the store as a regular, unlimited weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braken Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I'm just going to warn you ahead of time, that you'll most likely get some hostile responses to this topic. Some like lording the fact over others that they have something that can't be obtained. Me? I don't really care. Actually, I'd prefer it if anything that effects gameplay (Basically weapons that aren't just cosmetic, and mods) would be available to everyone. And this is coming from someone who has all the unique event weapons except for the Braton and Lato Vandals. I don't mind cosmetic items staying exclusive, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneOhOne Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) dont expect a event reward to become permanently available from farming, they're event rewards, the best is to hope for DE to have another event that gives the strun wraith, chances are unlikely though. one thing you have to understand is people worked for a event reward DURING the event, and it's ought to anger those people who spent the effort if DE then releases it normally, even if it's very hard to obtain normally. I believe my suggestion of doubling the requirements of the reward fixes that. It isn't my fault, nor anyone else's that missed the time allotted for the event due to other things. I'm also certain there are far more people who do not have the gun than people that do have it, which is in the interests of DE to make it available to the majority, however in a far more difficult situation which would prevent absolutely everyone having it. I'm just going to warn you ahead of time, that you'll most likely get some hostile responses to this topic. Some like lording the fact over others that they have something that can't be obtained. Me? I don't really care. Actually, I'd prefer it if anything that effects gameplay (Basically weapons that aren't just cosmetic, and mods) would be available to everyone. And this is coming from someone who has all the unique event weapons except for the Braton and Lato Vandals. I don't mind cosmetic items staying exclusive, though. This is also part of my complaint. The Straith is arguably the most powerful shotgun currently available in the game, and penalizing a player for not being present in the small amount of time that something considerably game-changing was available to earn is rather disheartening. Edited January 3, 2014 by OneOhOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter13 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Maybe in a future event... eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickboxing_Banana Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Maybe in a future event... eventually. Hopefully not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter13 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Hopefully not. Y'know it's kind of funny because I'm 100% for item exclusivity, but I don't mind it if weapons that were in a previous event as a reward get cycled into a new event as maybe a 'reach' goal. If only as a blueprint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makya Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Boar Prime does more DPS,, how it the Strun Wraith stronger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneOhOne Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 Boar Prime does more DPS,, how it the Strun Wraith stronger? Straith has a much better effective range. Boar Prime will obviously rip anything to shreds that's within hugging distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickboxing_Banana Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) Straith has a much better effective range. Boar Prime will obviously rip anything to shreds that's within hugging distance. I have both shotguns and I would say that Boar is more effective at longer distances as well. AND Boar Prime does double the DPS. Edited January 3, 2014 by GalliumGD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letir Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Y'know it's kind of funny because I'm 100% for item exclusivity, but I don't mind it if weapons that were in a previous event as a reward get cycled into a new event as maybe a 'reach' goal. If only as a blueprint. Disagree. I don't mind about "exclusive" too much, but it will be next step in Power Creep direction and another "form barrier". Who needs usual Strun, if someday SW will pop up and beat your formalized weapon in every term (DPS, Crit, Status, even in mag size and reload time)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EganMC Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I'm mainly for events rewards just being event rewards, but to be perfectly honest, I'm completely happy with simply getting the gun much earlier than others. The only exception for exclusivity I see is for the founders. Excalibur Prime, Skana Prime and the Lato Prime should never be released outside of the founders package. Releasing an item that took time to get while it was exclusive is one thing, releasing something that you bought is another. If they wanted to release the Strun Wraith once again, I'd be fine with it. But, that hasn't been true for any of the exclusive weapons, such as the Vandals. So I don't see this happening until the game reaches it's climax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneOhOne Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) I have both shotguns and I would say that Boar is more effective at longer distances as well. AND Boar Prime does double the DPS. Raw stats say otherwise, and no, Boar Prime does nowhere near double the DPS. At the maximum theoretical DPS, Boar is ahead by only around 25% which makes perfect sense considering "maximum theoretical DPS" counts all shots hitting, wherein you'd have to be in hugging range with the Boar. Regardless, this has nothing to do with the inability of the majority of the community to obtain it. Edited January 3, 2014 by OneOhOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makya Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Raw stats say otherwise, and no, Boar Prime does nowhere near double the DPS. At the maximum theoretical DPS, Boar is ahead by only around 25% which makes perfect sense considering "maximum theoretical DPS" counts all shots hitting, wherein you'd have to be in hugging range with the Boar. Regardless, this has nothing to do with the inability of the majority of the community to obtain it. He is correct and incorrect. He is counting the burst DPS difference, comparing Boar Prime's 45.5k burst dps to the Strun Wraith's 25k burst dps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonvision Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I believe my suggestion of doubling the requirements of the reward fixes that. It isn't my fault, nor anyone else's that missed the time allotted for the event due to other things. I'm also certain there are far more people who do not have the gun than people that do have it, which is in the interests of DE to make it available to the majority, however in a far more difficult situation which would prevent absolutely everyone having it. LIKE I SAID, in my other post, no matter how hard it is to get, if it's normally obtainable, then it's no longer a "event exclusive" thus angering the power who participated in said event. doubling the requirement for the reward doesnt change anything, it's still obtainable NORMALLY. besides, it IS technically your fault for not being there, whether it's your obligations or personal life that "gets in the way". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kickboxing_Banana Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Raw stats say otherwise, and no, Boar Prime does nowhere near double the DPS. At the maximum theoretical DPS, Boar is ahead by only around 25% which makes perfect sense considering "maximum theoretical DPS" counts all shots hitting, wherein you'd have to be in hugging range with the Boar. Regardless, this has nothing to do with the inability of the majority of the community to obtain it. Forgot to calculate reloads. Sorry, my mistake :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Fox75 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 It's exclusive for a reason, no you won't be able to get it again. Event awards are one time things for a reason. The only exception was the Detron and even then only because the Grineer won and it wasn't available to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneOhOne Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) LIKE I SAID, in my other post, no matter how hard it is to get, if it's normally obtainable, then it's no longer a "event exclusive" thus angering the power who participated in said event. doubling the requirement for the reward doesnt change anything, it's still obtainable NORMALLY. besides, it IS technically your fault for not being there, whether it's your obligations or personal life that "gets in the way". If there was ample amount of notification before prior engagements, I'd agree with you, however I've only heard of events after they've come out and I happen to look at my launcher after they've already begun. I also see nowhere in the gun's description or on the gun's model the statement "THIS IS EVENT EXCLUSIVE." Edited January 3, 2014 by OneOhOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makya Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 If there was ample amount of notification before prior engagements, I'd agree with you, however I've only heard of events after they've come out and I happen to look at my launcher after they've already begun. I also see nowhere in the gun's description or on the gun's model the statement "THIS IS EVENT EXCLUSIVE." Every Wraith or Vandal is event exclusive iirc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibbols123 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) Y'know it's kind of funny because I'm 100% for item exclusivity, but I don't mind it if weapons that were in a previous event as a reward get cycled into a new event as maybe a 'reach' goal. If only as a blueprint. But then what's the incentive for us that already have it? If there isn't something worth getting for us that already have that specific recycled reward, you've lost a lot of potential players in the event. If there was ample amount of notification before prior engagements, I'd agree with you, however I've only heard of events after they've come out and I happen to look at my launcher after they've already begun. I also see nowhere in the gun's description or on the gun's model the statement "THIS IS EVENT EXCLUSIVE." If it has "Wraith" or "Vandal" in the name, it's exclusive. That's how you determine that. It shouldn't have to actually say "THIS IS EVENT EXCLUSIVE" when the name says it all. Edited January 3, 2014 by Kibbols123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aglethe Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Me? I don't really care. Actually, I'd prefer it if anything that effects gameplay (Basically weapons that aren't just cosmetic, and mods) would be available to everyone. And this is coming from someone who has all the unique event weapons except for the Braton and Lato Vandals. That's pretty much how I feel about it too. I'd rather not have permanent exclusivity for gameplay impacting items. I went ~113 Grineer to 112 Corpus on the event for the Brakk, but it wouldn't bother me for people to be able to acquire it in game in some fashion now. When it comes to the Straith, it's been months now, so I don't really see the harm in it at this point. But I never liked that one much in the first place, so I don't know how much weight my opinion should carry there. ;) besides, it IS technically your fault for not being there, whether it's your obligations or personal life that "gets in the way". During this last (or I guess still current for a day or two) event there was a major winter storm in the American mid west, and many people lost their power for a week or more, would you really say that it was their fault for not being able to complete the event because their power was out ? A lot of things can happen to prevent a person from being able to participate in the events, especially for the shorter ones. It kind of sucks to have them forever remain one offs. Make them rare drop blueprints that take a Forma and Catalyst to craft or something to justify it if you must, but there ought to eventually be some path for people get them if they really want to badly enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibbols123 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) That's pretty much how I feel about it too. I'd rather not have permanent exclusivity for gameplay impacting items. I went ~113 Grineer to 112 Corpus on the event for the Brakk, but it wouldn't bother me for people to be able to acquire it in game in some fashion now. When it comes to the Straith, it's been months now, so I don't really see the harm in it at this point. But I never liked that one much in the first place, so I don't know how much weight my opinion should carry there. ;) During this last (or I guess still current for a day or two) event there was a major winter storm in the American mid west, and many people lost their power for a week or more, would you really say that it was their fault for not being able to complete the event because their power was out ? A lot of things can happen to prevent a person from being able to participate in the events, especially for the shorter ones. It kind of sucks to have them forever remain one offs. Make them rare drop blueprints that take a Forma and Catalyst to craft or something to justify it if you must, but there ought to eventually be some path for people get them if they really want to badly enough. This event's been going on for 3 WEEKS! You can't say that isn't your fault then! And no, they should remain exclusive. I worked to get those rewards when they were available. I'd be angry to see if people could just craft them when they wanted to, when all of us that do have the reward had to work hard in a limited time to get them. I'm fine with mods not remaining exclusive, but weapons/frames should remain that way. I didn't start on warframe until this past summer, so I didn't get the other events. Do you see me demanding the become non-exclusive? No. Why? I understand I wasn't there for those events and it's my fault. Edited January 3, 2014 by Kibbols123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magmahunter Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Every Wraith or Vandal is event exclusive iirc. not exactly. Lato Vandals were given to closed beta testers and Braton Vandals were available for 1cr around the end of the closed beta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibbols123 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 not exactly. Lato Vandals were given to closed beta testers and Braton Vandals were available for 1cr around the end of the closed beta. Then the Braton and Lato Vandals are CB Exclusive. The point still stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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