bobingabout Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Grineer invasion on Jupiter... and Grineer are offering superior loot. This means that another unique level with unique mobs is going to permanantly disapear under the foot of grineer morons, permanantly removing an area where you can get hard to obtain mods, like the pistol and rifle toxin damage (I forget their names) mods. So... the latest content in the game is very slowly being taken away from us. In my opinion, unique areas like Jupiter and Phobos should not be able to be invaded. In fact I'm starting to hate the invasion more and more, dispite the changes to allow you to keep progressing through an invasion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyrie9001 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Agreed. My Kappa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidPunch Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I'm getting really sick and tired of the invasion concept. I like knowing that certain planets are corpus or grineer. Now some planets are half and half which is stupid! I think only a few specific planets should be warzones. If jupitar loses its awesome mission to more boring galleons and mining vessels ima pissed. I go there for the awesome levels and corpus not to see the same grineer tiles that fill up 75% of this game already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordAsmolicious Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) Well just have to hope that the Corpus will strike back. but then grineer will still win, because Harvey. But as you said "unique" tilesets. so in your opinion places like earth should also not be invaded soon? due to it becoming forest tile ( I think. not sure.) and so when planet n2 becomes Grineer shipyard an invasion also shouldnt happen there? because its unique? Son if you want to keep Jupi in corpus hands then fight for it! Its the way of the game now. makes things interesting. EDIT: Note: Do note that they take over the Gas city aswell. No galeons will apear afaik. theyll use original area. look at mars. its half Grin half Corp. and what are the Grin in? Thats right corpus maps! Edited January 20, 2014 by Marabunta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_Krull Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I like it how you guys completely ignore it when corpus offer blatantly superior rewards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandarex Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 With the Detron fiasco going on right now, I think Grineers will win every invasion regardless of battle reward. :I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnat6 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 We are not grineer morons we are team greed get it right and the problem is not the invasions its the fact that a must have mod can only be found on one planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordAsmolicious Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I like it how you guys completely ignore it when corpus offer blatantly superior rewards Imho Reactor BP beats 3 Fieldrons. you dont have to craft 3 fieldrons anymore but lets be honest most of the energy weapons arent more than just stuff for mastery rank. Besides that i dont think that wasnt the main point of the OP. part of it but not fully. i Like how you ignore the rest of that ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_Krull Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Imho Reactor BP beats 3 Fieldrons. you dont have to craft 3 fieldrons anymore but lets be honest most of the energy weapons arent more than just stuff for mastery rank. Besides that i dont think that wasnt the main point of the OP. part of it but not fully. i Like how you ignore the rest of that ;D I meant nobody from corpus side complained when it was corpus offering 3 orokin cells vs grineer credits in 3 nodes out of 5 on uranus. Or the one last night on eris where grineer offered credits and corpus offered catalyst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybridon Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I meant nobody from corpus side complained when it was corpus offering 3 orokin cells vs grineer credits in 3 nodes out of 5 on uranus. Or the one last night on eris where grineer offered credits and corpus offered catalyst You are missing the point, he wants conflict on maps that are already generic, like the Galleons, many maps use them, so losing a few Grineer maps to Corpus or vice-versa does not affect gameplay. Losing Jupiter isnt all because of Corpus being taken out, its the fact that Jupiter has specific units that are the only ones to drop certain mods. If they get ruled out of Jupiter, we have no way to get those mods. And the battle pay itself isnt the true problem, but the last stories about Harvester spawning when supporting Grineer, thats the thing that has made it unbalanced, as people are supporting grineer just to try and get it to spawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kontonno Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 How's it feel to know in a few months time, the entire solar system will be Grineer dominated because even Corpus supporters are trying to use every edge they can to get harvester spawn just so they can get a chance... a slim chance... that they'll get the parts they need to build a Detron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobingabout Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 And we lost metis, and it looks like Io is well on the way to being grineer too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnat6 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 And we lost metis, and it looks like Io is well on the way to being grineer too... We must not be looking at the same map because all I see on Io is the grineer getting their butts kicked because everyone needs orokin cells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraizer Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Altough I find Invasions a nice concept, clearly they need A LOT of work. One of its problems is exactly what you have described: Unique tilesets, unique enemies/mods and Faction/Mission Type combinations can dissapear or suffer a major blow in a brink of an eye. They need to make sure these specific planets (like Phobos and Jupiter) don't get invaded OR if they do...then give the defender way better rewards and make sure the entire planet can't get conquered. First it's the Infested that dissapear...now we got these Invasion shennanigans :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAimbot Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 They could also just put the enemies from those planets elsewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparrohawk Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I haven't had time to play for a few days; are the Gas City tilesets actually being replaced when the Grineer win a node? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konfetarius Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Actually looks like it does. The Grineer controlled Jupiter defense mission is now asteroid tileset instead of gas tileset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor_victory Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Corpus took our kappa , We'll took their whole planet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous_Dwarf Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Actually looks like it does. The Grineer controlled Jupiter defense mission is now asteroid tileset instead of gas tileset. Lies, i just checked all greener captured missions, all of them are still on same gas tileset, just filled with greneers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CephalonShy Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I think captured tilesets should look actually captured - like when infestation happens. When grineer takes location for example, it should look destroyed by battle, with broken tech all over the place and grineer flags and other stuff hanging about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace24 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 With the Detron fiasco going on right now, I think Grineers will win every invasion regardless of battle reward. :I I thought so too, but somehow the corpus defended Io. and now the invasion is over, yet right before it ended the invasion progress was at like 53% on my screen.. dunno what was up with that. I need another harvester mark! (finally got it to spawn! didn't give me any goodies, though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAimbot Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I haven't had time to play for a few days; are the Gas City tilesets actually being replaced when the Grineer win a node? No, the enemies are the issue. There are 3 enemies that are exclusive to Jupiter that become more difficult to farm every time a Grineer Invasion is successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Redwire Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I thought so too, but somehow the corpus defended Io. and now the invasion is over, yet right before it ended the invasion progress was at like 53% on my screen.. dunno what was up with that. I need another harvester mark! (finally got it to spawn! didn't give me any goodies, though) The reason for the funky 53% number is becuase DE has yet to change the invasion system to not factor in nodes that have already been conquered/defended. Thus, the system takes the average of all the nodes, regardless if they're still active or not, and comes up with a number such as that. And corpus defended that node because the majority of the community will still jump at the chance to get a few cells over supporting the other guys any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordAsmolicious Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I meant nobody from corpus side complained when it was corpus offering 3 orokin cells vs grineer credits in 3 nodes out of 5 on uranus. Or the one last night on eris where grineer offered credits and corpus offered catalyst Ah okay in that way. Maybe folks just have an anti grineer bias? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingTaro Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 When the invasion is a success, the change in faction should only last for a week or two and after that, it should return to it's original state. Maybe have the faction ask the tenno for help to take it back. At which point you have to do 3 runs for a certain reward. For example, Corpus invades Grineer node and wins. The node becomes Corpus for 2 weeks. After 2 weeks, the Grineer asks for help to take back their node. The take back is not an invasion where you can choose a side, but an invasion much like the infestation. You just do 3 runs for a reward from Grineer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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