arch111 Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 false pattern recognition Fascinating. What pattern do you see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teqnologyque Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Elves Just an FYI; Elves, Tolkien or otherwise, are quite often THE MOST passionate species in a fantasy setting. It's just that they stereotypically live so long that they learn to channel their emotions properly, making them SEEM emotionally stunted. but seriously, look at every Elven character in modern fantasy literature. They tend to be focused, driven, and very dedicated to their cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faustias Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 I see Mickey Mouse's ears with a crown on his head? What the hell is wrong with me? I can't unsee it now. you did the wrong game. you played "Find Hidden Mickey". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuRockBR Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 Hi all! I am a Lore nut on these forums and just now I realized there is a Orokin Emblem. This was a WOW moment for me, and I started comparing it to Lotus Emblem. At first I saw nothing, so I put Lotus over Orokin. They lined up just fine. Then I noticed what looked like a Crown. After that I saw the head, with the tilted eyes and curved horns. Totally not serious. Then my imagination began running WILD. Lol. The orokin wore golden warframes with curved evil demonic appearance, six arms or wings could make them robotic, or alien, or cybernetic humans. Or my mind are finally seeing things that arent really there. I do however wonder about it´s meaning. If we look at Lotus she does in fact wear a headdress resembling the very Emblem the Tenno wear. There is no misstaking it. So now I wonder if DE put some thought behind the symbols they place in their world beyond pure "This looks cool!". Apologies all around if I am completely misstaken and this is just me wanting to find more Lore in the game. Wich I do. Badly. ************** What do you see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) I made this... based on this: The pattern is at the bottom, but not lit up. On some floor plates, it is lit up. Thing is, after looking around the Orokin Towers some more, there are a couple other things that could be the Orokin logo. There is the Codex icon, but I haven't seen anything like that in the Towers yet. I'd say it's unmistakable that you can find lotus petals all around the Towers, though. 99% certain that the Lotus is an Orokin AI that went rogue and told the Tenno to kill the Orokin. Question is, what was the purpose of the lotus symbol in Dark Sector (both the original, and the modern one that got released)? And, given that, just how linked are the Tenno and the Orokin? I think it's obvious that the Orokin are human as well. More pics (1st one show the same background that's in the Lotus video feeds, 2nd to last one is the Tenno symbol that's also on Excalibur's shoulder): Edited March 30, 2014 by AntoineFlemming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 I made this... based on this: The pattern is at the bottom, but not lit up. On some floor plates, it is lit up. Thing is, after looking around the Orokin Towers some more, there are a couple other things that could be the Orokin logo. There is the Codex icon, but I haven't seen anything like that in the Towers yet. I'd say it's unmistakable that you can find lotus petals all around the Towers, though. 99% certain that the Lotus is an Orokin AI that went rogue and told the Tenno to kill the Orokin. Question is, what was the purpose of the lotus symbol in Dark Sector (both the original, and the modern one that got released)? And, given that, just how linked are the Tenno and the Orokin? I think it's obvious that the Orokin are human as well. More pics (1st one show the same background that's in the Lotus video feeds, 2nd to last one is the Tenno symbol that's also on Excalibur's shoulder): Do you therefore think my reasoning is without grounds, just wishful thinking? Allso, what other symbols have you seen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted March 30, 2014 Share Posted March 30, 2014 (edited) Do you therefore think my reasoning is without grounds, just wishful thinking? Allso, what other symbols have you seen? Oh, your reasoning is sound. It's deductive reasoning. And it makes sense. I don't think the Orokin wore warframes, but I bet they wore headdresses similar to the Lotus. I think Rebecca referred to the Lotus as an AI, so I'd say the Lotus is an Orokin AI. That's all. Looking at one of your later posts, I do think you are right. I think the gold refers to the gold that they wore and the gold of their structures and tech. I think the cold does refer to their championing or preference of reason and logic over emotion, and I think that it is this that distinguishes them from the Sentients. Note that sentience has a lot to do with feeling and emotion, and exhibiting such. I believe this is one of the only differences, and that both are human. I do think there is certainly a regal aspect of the Orokin as well. Haven't really seen any other symbols beyond: 1) the one petal design in the fifth and seventh pics 2) the design of the floor plate 3) and the top view lotus design seen in the second and third pics I know of the Codex symbol, but haven't seen that anywhere in the derelicts or the towers. I just wonder why the Dark Sector suit had the lotus emblem. Wonder if that was supposed to be the emblem of a project or organization. Edited March 30, 2014 by AntoineFlemming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 Good question. I do find pic 9 very interesting given the orokins fondess for one central "eye". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Orokin written language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Orokin written language. Looks very Japanese-ish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Looks very Japanese-ish. Nope. Not sure what it's like. Could just be a pattern actually, since it's mirrored on the other sections. Here's the original sized pic (just the language part though): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 ^ more like arabic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 ^ more like arabic. That's what I was thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadX65 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 cool finds antoine, guess it all depends how deep DE thought out the orokin. symbols could be anything, though a race symbol should/could be what ever is repeated the most and most prominently displayed. other less used could be anything, watch your step, indicators for different areas, engine room, power room, research lab, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Judgment2007 Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 I am really disturbed by the fact that so many people claim to have spent so long in the Void looking for parts and so few realise the whole architecture of the Void rooms is dedicated to the Lotus flower. The goddamned traps are buds waiting to burst open, quite literaly, there are so many open flowers with their golden petals wide open that if you hadnt realised it after a coupld visits to the Void, you should really get off Warframe for a couple months and do some reading and art sighseeing. Just read it and it did sound like my post was directed at one or more forumers in this thread, which is not the case. It's funny that I completely missed the Lotus symbol in the Void until someone mentioned it the other day. Then I was like, "How could I have missed it." It's literally everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NevanChambers Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Nope. Not sure what it's like. Could just be a pattern actually, since it's mirrored on the other sections. Here's the original sized pic (just the language part though): It says: Warning: do not stand near operational lasers. The one on the console says "Warning: do not operate laser when obstruction is present." I wish that more Tenno could read that one. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 Figured it out. The symbol I posted about referres to the only living thing left in the Void; The Neural Sentry. We never see it directly to my knowledge, and Lotus only wants the Tenno to "cleanse" the Towers from the Corrupted. Why do we not take out the Sentry as well? Maby because it is a advanced AI, and Lotus does not want it dead. Or perhaps the Sentries are the Orokin, at least what´s left of them. But what would a robotic like that look like? Based on the symbolism and Orokin TEch in Primes, turrets and such I came up with the following image. I know it might be absolute nonselse and DE will never have us facing the Pupperteers in the Void, but I wanted to share this anyway. And possibly, at the very least, get some oppinions on the nature and possible future appearnce of the Neural Sentry. If DE would do this, would you look forward to it? What would you hope/fear/dream for Mynki and the others to come up with? Anywhoo, here it is very very fast and basic, mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNsaNitySOZ Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Community level of assumed symbolism - 800 Actual symbolism intentionally in place - 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 ^ Design team are leaning heavily on Eastern mysticism, symbolism and borrow frequently from sources. Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pengu_Imperialus Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 All your questions will be answered in time!!!! *disappears in a smug sense of satisfaction* You get a good look at that thing shoved into the corrupted ancients face? Is it the orokin symbol or the lotus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)friedricetheman Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 So, you're trying to tell me that the Orokin is actually DIABLO? *mind blown* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 ^ I'm thinking Orokin were arrogant, cruel and dominating. Like Grineer but without the shouting. What do you see, or think they were? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 ^ I'm thinking Orokin were arrogant, cruel and dominating. Like Grineer but without the shouting. What do you see, or think they were? Lotus calls them tyrants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arch111 Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) Lotus calls them tyrants. So I have been told, but where exactly does she do this? Is it the datamining I have heard about but not read? Edited April 2, 2014 by arch111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelGuardcc Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 i see pink pony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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