xenoffense Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I apologize for the way I said that during the livestream, but I stand by my statement that it looks hokey, specifically the air walking after you do the spin part of it. I would much rather have a new aerial animation (maybe like the flying swallow technique from ninja gaiden) that doesnt leave you walking in midair afterward. I LOVE the mobility of coptering but I HATE the way it looks. On another note the stream was awesome and I am super stoked for melee 2.0 SOOOO glad you decided to do away with the classic charge attacks like I have been suggesting :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellbinding Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Also inb4 flame war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasRayya Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Did they say anything about how it will effect charge mods? I'm at work and had to mute the stream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haldos Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 If it's going to be staying, it might as well get a custom animation for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxbomb Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 New proposal, coptering is still possible, but it requires a complicated combo move to pull off! Nah, I kid (sort of). If coptering is going to remain as a game mechanic, some official animations would be nice, although maybe just looking hokey is DE's way of providing a tradeoff for those who use it (looking fabulous > mobility). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se05239 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I am kinda disappointed they decided to let it stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towermice Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I am kinda disappointed they decided to let it stay. Gotta go slow right? nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CY13ERPUNK Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 super disappointed to hear that it's staying<br /><br />hurts the game IMHO<br /><br />if you want to let players go fast, just incentivize RUNNING/SPRINTING more<br /><br />its stupid that tenno melee-slide-spin attack CONSTANTLY ALL OVER THE WHOLE @(*()$ MAP its just stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroraSonicBoom Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Coptering shouldn't be encouraged, it's a bug that allows even the slowest of the slow to outrun the fastest of the fast. The last thing I want to see it DE actually putting work into a broken mechanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CrimsonShinku Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 super disappointed to hear that it's staying<br /><br />hurts the game IMHO<br /><br />if you want to let players go fast, just incentivize RUNNING/SPRINTING more<br /><br />its stupid that tenno melee-slide-spin attack CONSTANTLY ALL OVER THE WHOLE @(*()$ MAP its just stupid Coptering shouldn't be encouraged, it's a bug that allows even the slowest of the slow to outrun the fastest of the fast. The last thing I want to see it DE actually putting work into a broken mechanic. i just don't get you people, coptering requires actual skill, it might look dumb but that's just proof that it's not easy to perform well, want to move fast, sprint, but want to go sanics? you're going to have to dance on your keyboard/controller for it. and coptering is no longer a bug, so not liking it is not enough to get it removed now, it's got DE's seal of approval. and one last thing, no, it does NOT allow the slowest of the slow to outrun the fastest of the fast, if neither has the zorens the faster frame wins, if both have the zorens, the fastest frame STILL wins, this is like complaining a frost outran your loki because he had rush and you didn't and don't want to use rush, it's the same thing. so if you want to complain about unjust speed buffs, complain about rhino prime and his +25% speed rhino-only helmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I'm so conflicted. For one, I love spinning through the air because it looks so ridiculous. I also dislike it for the same reason. Wat do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CrimsonShinku Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I'm so conflicted. For one, I love spinning through the air because it looks so ridiculous. I also dislike it for the same reason. Wat do? go even faster so you don't see it for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble_Cactus Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Considering how anime this game already is, I see nothing hokey with how coptering looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arunafeltz Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Considering how anime this game already is, I see nothing hokey with how coptering looks. What does anime have to do looking hokey? I love spinning though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble_Cactus Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) What does anime have to do looking hokey? I love spinning though. I imagine coptering looks weird to some people because it looks exaggerated for the animation (flying great distances with a little spin), the exaggeration being the cartoony or 'anime' part. I, personally, have no qualms with coptering. Edited April 5, 2014 by Noble_Cactus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxbomb Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Considering how anime this game already is, I see nothing hokey with how coptering looks. Warframe is anime? What kind of anime? Frame Metal Alchemist? Ghost in the Frame? Frame la Frame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CrimsonShinku Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Warframe is anime? What kind of anime? Frame Metal Alchemist? Ghost in the Frame? Frame la Frame? not naruframeto it's like you didn't even try. with all the orange and yellow excaliburs out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxbomb Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 not naruframeto it's like you didn't even try. with all the orange and yellow excaliburs out there. I don't think I've ever seen an orange and yellow excal, usually reds or blues (then again my Loki is orange-ish, so you got me there). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble_Cactus Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) Warframe is anime? What kind of anime? Frame Metal Alchemist? Ghost in the Frame? Frame la Frame? Late 80s/early 90s scifi anime and live action TV shows. A team of superhuman warriors in bio-technic suits fighting evil space empires with magical psychic powers, advanced weaponry, inhuman acrobatics, and unreal swordsmanship. Now complete with sword explosions and dynamic gore-laden cuts! What makes WF interesting is that it's a Western take on anime from that period. It's flashy without being over-extravagant or completely over-the-top. WF has restraint. That's part of the appeal, at least to me. Not to dismiss 80s/90s anime. That stuff is fun. It's probably a big reason why this game has a fairly large Japanese playerbase, really. Shows like Sentai Rangers, Kamen Rider, and Guyver come to mind. Especially Guyver. I would be very surprised if Mynki didn't cite Guyver as one of his main influences when designing Frames, or if he denied having read/watched it. Edited April 5, 2014 by Noble_Cactus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arunafeltz Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I imagine coptering looks weird to some people because it looks exaggerated for the animation (flying great distances with a little spin), the exaggeration being the cartoony or 'anime' part. I, personally, have no qualms with coptering. Well yeah. come to think of it it does look pretty comical. I guess that's not intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychedelicSnake Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Warframe is anime? What kind of anime? Frame Metal Alchemist? Ghost in the Frame? Frame la Frame? If it was Akiraframe it'd be the greatest thing ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xenoffense Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 i just don't get you people, coptering requires actual skill, it might look dumb but that's just proof that it's not easy to perform well, want to move fast, sprint, but want to go sanics? you're going to have to dance on your keyboard/controller for it. and coptering is no longer a bug, so not liking it is not enough to get it removed now, it's got DE's seal of approval. and one last thing, no, it does NOT allow the slowest of the slow to outrun the fastest of the fast, if neither has the zorens the faster frame wins, if both have the zorens, the fastest frame STILL wins, this is like complaining a frost outran your loki because he had rush and you didn't and don't want to use rush, it's the same thing. so if you want to complain about unjust speed buffs, complain about rhino prime and his +25% speed rhino-only helmet Coptering is difficult on a controller (noticed you're a PSN user) but it's insanely easy with mouse and keyboard I imagine coptering looks weird to some people because it looks exaggerated for the animation (flying great distances with a little spin), the exaggeration being the cartoony or 'anime' part. I, personally, have no qualms with coptering. It's not the spinning and flying a huge distance that looks dumb to me, it's the fact that its the same exact animation as you do on the ground and it ends with you walking on air. The ground animation looks fine... but in the air it just looks incredibly unpolished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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