GraalOhOtonami Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 It's totally, utterly and unavoidably irrelevant and unimportant if a game is F2P or not. If it can be criticized, it should be criticized. That's how companies compete and that's how we get better games. Actually, companies currently compete by buying out competitors and dropping all support for it, meaning they get all the money. Alternatively, they pay people to slander it, or failing that, they file copyright. Other than that, they don't compete, they co-exist. Shush about things you don't read about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serqit Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I give it 32 bags of popcorn plus an additional 12 nachos, but only 5 sodas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varzy Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Every visit to the forums depresses me with how pessimistic everyone is :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anunymau5 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Goddammit... I cant slot Iron Pheonix on my Dakra Prime. Seriously DE, why isnt this working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic_Face Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 i find it really fun, i love the new frame, and melee...the only stuff i cant try out is anything related to the dojo (p.c. account is my secondary) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrissa88 Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I enjoyed the old melee system that part where you at least can use your speed to kill now with a Fang just horrible. I don't know how they thought but they hate maybe the speedy things in this game. Reduced the speed most of melee and they just killed the fury with this reduce. Stances maybe good stuffs but not give so much extras and i bet in a massive fight you won't use your combos when a half squad shot toward you. With this speed i can survive at least 5 sec in high levels. The game is buggy still but almost every new update ruining a little this and need time to be fixed other stuffs in game seems okay but still need to try out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDRLOz Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Though this is first impressions I find it quite sickening what people have put. RNG RNG RNG... Did you just want to login and get all the stance mods of the first thing you killed? Also the Vay hek might a grind but it has to be. This is a free to play game and DE has to make the platinum back some how. So WHENEVER a new frame comes out it gets hid behind a small time/effort wall. This makes people who want the new shiny thing buy it now instead of waiting. The void forbid you guys have to put any effort in this game to get any reward back. Give it a few days at the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Cool Sword! Followed shortly by: This grind frustrates me to the point of not wanting to play the game. That's never happened before. Seriously, why did DE have to put the new Hek behind such a grind wall? I was hoping for awesome encounters at Earth, but this? It sickens me. Edit: I was fine with the Nekros grind. At least the coordinates were easy to get, and you didn't need that many. Here, you're lucky if the unit that drops the coordinates spawns. Then, you've got to pray that you have the right damage type to deal with him (lord knows what happens if you can't kill him in an exterminate mission). Then, you've got to hope that the right type of coordinate drops. All of that will eventually net you one chance at getting the frame component that you need. Edited April 10, 2014 by Corvid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrVonTouchdown Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Two Words: Uninstall worthy. What a trashy way to treat the playerbase. Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoig Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 yeah, everyone is jumping the gun, i have no idea what possesed DE to put everything behind the bad kind of grinding (you know, the kind where you grind for hours but dont feel like you make progress) and more importantly, why they did not give melee weapons default stances. also dont worry about the grinding, nekros was bad at first, then they toned down all of the grinding, reducing the time it took to build the keys and reducing the mats needed. i mean hes still kinda bad to grind for, but its gotten better. yall can start whining if its still horrible in a week or two, but for now, sit down, provide constructive criticism, and hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralAvalanche Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) the rng: the rest of it: that's the super shortened response Edited April 10, 2014 by AdmiralAvalanche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yousho Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Actually, companies currently compete by buying out competitors and dropping all support for it, meaning they get all the money. Alternatively, they pay people to slander it, or failing that, they file copyright. Other than that, they don't compete, they co-exist. Shush about things you don't read about. Doesn't, in any way, negate my point. Criticism is healthy and the 'F2P' banner should not be a shield from it. Try again? Also if you think gaming companies don't compete by making better games...you're just wrong. See Everquest 2 and World of Warcraft. See AoS and LoL. See Prototype and InFamous. Sure, you get the underbelly of it, but better games are, well, better. Game design team sees game, thinks 'I can do better' while the original game fails to do so, people move to the new game. #Competition ANYWAY: Back on track; Just because a game is free to play, does not mean we shouldn't criticize it, it's healthy to do so. If the consumer pushes for better, there will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NjaII Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 yall can start whining if its still horrible in a week or two, but for now, sit down, provide constructive criticism, and hope. They need to see there is a problem if we want them to fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanCipher Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 - New Resource: Argon Crystal. A Void Only Resource from the Orokin Age that decays over time (a half-life of one day). Use it quickly in any gear that requires this Resource! i really can't be the only one thinking that this is just a bad idea waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NjaII Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 i really can't be the only one thinking that this is just a bad idea waiting to happen. Bah. Just wait for the new market item. Tenno Freezer Cost : 50 platiniums Upkeep : 5 platiniums a week. Effect : Prevents your argon crystals from decaying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDoctah Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I'm just bummed out that DE had to put everything behind a rng wall, I would love to try the new melee system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralAvalanche Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Steve heed our call!, so far it seems we have know info if the devs are going too change this or if it had been acknowledged at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worira Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Steve heed our call!, so far it seems we have know info if the devs are going too change this or if it had been acknowledged at all They are probably pretty super asleep. Some might be waking up soonish maybe? I don't think Steve has slept in the last week or so, though, so I wouldn't expect him any time soon. Edited April 10, 2014 by Worira Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackraver Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Yeesh you guys are a tough crowd. They're going for sustainability with this one. Long term health guys. I for one love how I need no other weapon besides melee, and I do have much more fun now. I dislike having to farm for certain mods which is something I haven't needed to do in a while, but now I can have fun doing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmiralAvalanche Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 i see that logical, thanks for reminding me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emeere Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I'm actually thoroughly enjoying the new melee system. The Charge Attack system was boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDACTED Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahmastra Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 A new level of grind and bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadScream Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 grind . . . oh, and various crashes every single time I start a mission on Ceres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 Yeesh you guys are a tough crowd. They're going for sustainability with this one. Long term health guys. I for one love how I need no other weapon besides melee, and I do have much more fun now. I dislike having to farm for certain mods which is something I haven't needed to do in a while, but now I can have fun doing it Most of us are fine with everything except the Hek grindwall. Partially because it came out of nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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