Acino Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 So... all it took was one page to go from argument for improving Excalibur to arguing about Frost's powers. Oh well. So... who wants slash dash to add to the combo counter? I do! I do! Yes plz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SLX-J3tAc3 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) I'd like to see Excalibur's powers switched around and his stats adjusted accordingly. 1. Superjump, that should take the least energy and be in slot 1. 2. Radial Blind 3. Slash Dash. Considering the Stalker can do 1200 damage or so in a a slash dash and his suit seems to be a modified Excalibur-ish Warframe, I would make this Excal's number 3 ability, and I would increase the damage it currently does. 4. Radial Javelin. I'm not giving any specific damage numbers or percentage increases/decreases for each ability, though - I'll leave that for the forum members to discuss what they think is right. Edited May 10, 2014 by -SLX-J3tAc3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) Since Frost suddenly appeared, so.... I don't about globe. But I care about avalanche getting its freeze duration back. Edited May 10, 2014 by fatpig84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgedemon Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 wasn't this thread about excalibur? Strength mods are not necessary but will make your globe last longer. Strength mods also help Frost nuke. Range mods make the globe bigger, which causes it to die faster, so they are actually a hindrance unless fighting against infested (even then they could cause problems for those using explosives.) Duration mods are not that important. Just Continuity or Constitution (or Narrow Minded to make the Globe snug around the defense target) is enough to make Snow Globe last long enough that you don't have to camp the defense target constantly and also allows it to be indefinitely maintainable with one Energy Siphon. One mod is not a big price to pay for flexibility, though it would be cool if his other abilities besides Freeze scaled with it somehow. The armor mod is unnecessary and doesn't contribute that much health (836.) However, if you were to forgo strength mods entirely you could Steel Fiber to boost the globe instead and increase personal survivability as well. Efficiency mods were already par for the course so that hasn't changed at all. you could also need range for a boss battle except ODA. since direct damage is the worse scaling in game strength mods are kinda pointless in the long run so i take Steel Fiber over it any day. duration mods also benefit ice wave frozen proc? is so at 100% activation it becomes worthwhile 3. Slash Dash. Considering the Stalker can do 1200 damage or so in a a slash dash and his suit seems to be a modified Excalibur-ish Warframe, I would make this Excal's number 3 ability, and I would increase the damage it currently does. i don't see a need to reorder as you will not use super jump more often than the other skills anyway. maximized damage slash and dash already deals 1220 damage for a measly increase in cost which makes it one of the most efficient area damage skills, you cant expect to get the highest damage output without modding for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaskadar Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 I see that the proposal for Slash Dash adding to the combo counter would be a way for increasing Excalibur's scalability outside of Radial Blind, vastly improving his potency as a brawler in late-game scenarios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPandemonium Posted May 10, 2014 Share Posted May 10, 2014 since direct damage is the worse scaling in game strength mods are kinda pointless in the long run so i take Steel Fiber over it any day. duration mods also benefit ice wave frozen proc? is so at 100% activation it becomes worthwhile Avalanche's damage with a 75/57 build is effective through the 30s, so it is certainly relevant for non-infinite content. Duration mods don't help Ice Wave because it's just a Cold damage proc and not actually an ability effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juranai Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Juranai He is considered a Beginner frame cause of his "Balanced" stats, while in reality Excalibur is lacking quite a bit. Not if you put enough work into him, with the right combination of mods, formas and a potatoe he is quite worthvile in end game situations. The only ability that needs some love is jump when combined with one of the other abilities. And the following frames should get some love vefore the X Ash -Banshee -Saryn -Oberon -Nekros Edited May 11, 2014 by Juranai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sharp_Demonologist Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share Posted May 12, 2014 Juranai To be fair Saryn doesnt really NEED it, shes in a pretty good spot right now. She could use some work yes but she isnt in desperate need for a rework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansJurgen Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 *cough Radial Blind Build cough* I do agree that he needs buffing abit, though I would probably if not surely pick Excalibur over Mag on usefulness on the long run. QFT +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Juranai To be fair Saryn doesnt really NEED it, shes in a pretty good spot right now. She could use some work yes but she isnt in desperate need for a rework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juranai Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Juranai To be fair Saryn doesnt really NEED it, shes in a pretty good spot right now. She could use some work yes but she isnt in desperate need for a rework. perhaps your right but she is still my least favorite frame and I almost never use her anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saiou Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 *cough Radial Blind Build cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH_PRIME Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 He's really surprisingly squishy, yes the poster boy for WF could really use a buff!I personally run a Radial Blind / Super Jump build just for fun and mobility... Radial Blind rules.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgedemon Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) I personally run a Radial Blind / Super Jump build just for fun and mobility... Radial Blind rules.. super jump + heavy impact wide area knock down rocks Edited May 14, 2014 by Edgedemon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sharp_Demonologist Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 Edgedemon I can use Booben whit Bounce and the Jat Kittag and i will Outdamage and out CC you. Not to mention far more useful for the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgedemon Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Edgedemon I can use Booben whit Bounce and the Jat Kittag and i will Outdamage and out CC you. Not to mention far more useful for the team the usefulness changes with user skill and timing, but you would had to carry your jag kittag, and even ignoring that it wouldn't be even close in coolness and FUN. though it would fun in its own way, looking like a looney toons cartoon "jump on the spring -> smash with huge hammer" you could also take zephyr with divebomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderius Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Edgedemon I can use Booben whit Bounce and the Jat Kittag and i will Outdamage and out CC you. Not to mention far more useful for the team At least we know that when somebody does something for fun, you can come in and tell them how you're better. What a joy to have you in the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WickedSynn Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Hmmm 1 Slashdash is awesome enough said. 2 Super jump great with heavy impact 3 radial blind not only stunns but increases melee damge radial javalin. pinning baddies to the wall....so far im not seeing a problem with any of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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