Rakosta_Kai Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 It's 2000 when maxed, then intensify and blind rage. No weapon has a guaranteed bleed proc or invulnerability while you use it :| I'm readily familiar with the numbers... Both Shuriken and Bladestorm slash procs was something I suggested some time ago. It was something I suggested in conjunction with the need for a utility skill. We'll all have to wait and see how it works out as the notes lead me to think Ash's ability set is still being hammered on. Hopefully, something else gets added or modified for utility's sake If the changes stop here though, I don't see them being as compelling as you seem to think they'll be though. Without a utility skill of some sort, it's just more frosting on the same cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphex2357 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I was happy until someone made the naruto comparison. Now my happiness is tainted with the thought that Quality (Warframe) is being associated with crap. Your treading on a flamewar there friend be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleesus Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Ash rework, F*** YEAH :D. Most favourite and first frame i ever built since closed beta He was the first one I built too #Twinsees Ash Master race #SuckItLoki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlakiNuva Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 One of my clanmates is actually pretty pissed that Blade Storm is shorter now. Evidently he can't play Ash without half a minute of mercy invincibility whenever he activates his ult. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNsaNitySOZ Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I literally sold my Ash like 3 days ago. What do you guys want buffed next? I'll see what I can do eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)LilVanu Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I was happy until someone made the naruto comparison. Now my happiness is tainted with the thought that Quality (Warframe) is being associated with crap. GG. I laughed out loud in my class and now every bodies wondering what the hell I'm doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grascen Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) It's a lot of damage.. about 1800 additional damage per target. Where in the world are you getting this number? Bleed proc is 35% of the damage that dealt it. Rank 5 Bladestorm = 2000 damage = 700 bleed Rank 5 Bladestorm + max Intensify = 2600 damage = 910 bleed Rank 5 Bladestorm + max Intensify + Blind Rage = 4580 damage = 1603 bleed Edit: Never mind. I read the wiki wrong. It's 35% bleed per tick over 6 seconds, not total 35% bleed over 6 seconds. This is a big difference. Personally, I wanted to see Shurikens and Bladestorm be able to both build and benefit from the melee combo multiplier. Bleed works, though, I guess. Edited May 13, 2014 by Grascen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggh Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) I'm readily familiar with the numbers... Both Shuriken and Bladestorm slash procs was something I suggested some time ago. It was something I suggested in conjunction with the need for a utility skill. We'll all have to wait and see how it works out as the notes lead me to think Ash's ability set is still being hammered on. Hopefully, something else gets added or modified for utility's sake If the changes stop here though, I don't see them being as compelling as you seem to think they'll be though. Without a utility skill of some sort, it's just more frosting on the same cake. You're familiar with the numbers but have gotten them wrong in every post thus far. Okay :| Edited May 13, 2014 by Aggh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikage Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 OMG i was waiting for this. Just a question : When???? Right around the corner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livid_Jack Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I would shed a tear from the sight of these changes, but i don't have any eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapedBaldy Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Just hope finisher on teleport is the ground pound finisher, not stealth attack ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerZeyCJ Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Wait, is there a limit to how many times Bladestorm can attack the same target? If not, can we just use it to rapidly attack high-level targets(like bosses) repeatedly, doing a boat-load of damage? Also, I need to go get the plat for Ash's Immortal skin now. Gonna be playing him a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)LilVanu Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I'd approve of a new helmet for Ash... the 2 other than default look meh to me... just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerZeyCJ Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 I'd approve of a new helmet for Ash... the 2 other than default look meh to me... just sayin' Yeah, they're not exactly the best looking helmets. And they both look so different from his default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)LilVanu Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Yeah, they're not exactly the best looking helmets. And they both look so different from his default. His regular helm looks pretty badass as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sharp_Demonologist Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 And i just had to sell Ash for Oberón... and then sell Oberón... well at least it was for BOOBEN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sharp_Demonologist Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 JerZeyCJ Isnt that the point of an Alternate Helmet, to look different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakosta_Kai Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 You're familiar with the numbers but have gotten them wrong in every post thus far. Okay :| Actually... I'm almost positive it's you in that position Almost... I left your math alone on the chance it might be correct... We are talking about the same group that released Nova. Personally, I'm still expecting 1,837 damage via bleed procs per target. And I'm still expecting the change to be lackluster without a utility skill being added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Crackle2012 Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) You know what? I think this would be awesome SmokeScreen- Now gives off an aura that moves with you like EDIT: Clarification Banshee's "proposed" Silence buff etc.. and if within range--- your friends are cloaked as well. Since his invisibility doesn't even compare to loki's in duration I think this would be amazing utility Edited May 13, 2014 by Crackle2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleesus Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 And i just had to sell Ash for Oberón... and then sell Oberón... well at least it was for BOOBEN! You have made some terrible choices in your time buddy lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurtys Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Actually... I'm almost positive it's you in that position Almost... I left your math alone on the chance it might be correct... We are talking about the same group that released Nova. Personally, I'm still expecting 1,837 damage via bleed procs per target. And I'm still expecting the change to be lackluster without a utility skill being added. Well, Teleport while give you a chance to use a finisher on the target so it will CC it during the animation (but you while still be vunerable to other attack...) and Bladestorm will create clones allowing the skill to CC more target at once and even retargeting an already hitted one (because enemies can't move during the bladestorm attack animations). So that's at least a bit of utility... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerZeyCJ Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 JerZeyCJ Isnt that the point of an Alternate Helmet, to look different. But they look so different and don't really seem to fit with the style his default appearance and helmet set out. Plus, they look don't look all that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleesus Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 But they look so different and don't really seem to fit with the style his default appearance and helmet set out. Plus, they look don't look all that good. That's Iike, your opinion man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakosta_Kai Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 Well, Teleport while give you a chance to use a finisher on the target so it will CC it during the animation (but you while still be vunerable to other attack...) and Bladestorm will create clones allowing the skill to CC more target at once and even retargeting an already hitted one (because enemies can't move during the bladestorm attack animations). So that's at least a bit of utility... I'm sorry bud... I'm not trying to come off like Donnie Doomsayer here. The buffs to Ash are just that. And with him, any buff is a help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerZeyCJ Posted May 13, 2014 Share Posted May 13, 2014 That's Iike, your opinion man Of course it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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