(PSN)Shadow_Of_Hunhow Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I think if you're putting a couple hundred platinum towards a melee weapon, it should either give you the uncommon stance, both stances, or just a 50/50 shot between the rare and uncommon stances. Most people she that weapon prices are too high, so this would alleviate some of this issue, since you get a worthwhile mod for the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insulino Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) We already get a slot, catalyst and we don't have to wait for it to build (12, 24, 72 hours it depends), to include the stance would be too much imo, besides weapons not including stance mods benefits the in game market. Edited August 22, 2014 by Insulino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shadow_Of_Hunhow Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) We already get a slot, catalyst and we don't have to wait for it to build (12, 24, 72 hours it depends), to include the stance would be too much imo, besides weapons not including stance mods benefits the in game market.Ok, let's look at the Venka. 20 platinum for the catalyst, 6 for the slot, and a rush cost is 25-35. So you're telling me that the weapon alone is with 100 platinum? This would also benefit the trade market, since if you bought two or more of the same type of weapon, you'd have copies of the mods that you don't need. Then you can sell off the extra to people who built their weapon, or wanted the other stance.And they did it with the mirage bundle, Silva and Aegis came with it's stance. Edited August 22, 2014 by (PS4)SCP-100912 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuroShiranui Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) I'll do a calculation for a comparison with foundry and the market. I'll use Amphis, assuming you have nothing, and nothing (0 resources) in your inventory at all.Amphis costs 150p in the market. Slot=6 Catalyst=20 Neurodes=20 Salvage=5 Circuits=12 Alloy=12 Credits=135 (Using the high roller credit bundle) Rush=45 All of these sums up to 255p. So the market price is lower still. We don't need stances, the price is low enough already. Okay maybe the credit roller is a bit of overkill. Minus it and you'll get 120p. Perhaps 30p lower than the market, but that still doesn't stop you from click spam each of the 4 resources plus the credit bundle and whatnot, and you still need to go to the foundry section to start crafting, as well as clicking rush. Edited August 22, 2014 by KuroShiranui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuroShiranui Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 As for Venka: Venka=175 Slot=6 Catalyst=20 Gallium=40 Salvage=10 Plastids=50 Forma=20 Credits=105 Rush=35 Sum=286p And even without the credit roller bundle it still costs 181p, 6 plat higher than the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shadow_Of_Hunhow Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 As for Venka: Venka=175 Slot=6 Catalyst=20 Gallium=40 Salvage=10 Plastids=50 Forma=20 Credits=105 Rush=35 Sum=286p And even without the credit roller bundle it still costs 181p, 6 plat higher than the market. You're really using all the market prices for it? Gallium is extremely easy to get, not worth 20p unless you get like 20 with it. Salvage is easier than gallium, most people have an abundance of it. It should be like 5p for 200 Plastids, see above. Forma, this one is arguable. Is it with 20 to me, no. Should it cost the same as a catalyst or reactor, no. But it should still be a higher cost then the average material, since it's sometimes easier to get than orokin cells or argon crystals, but harder to get than salvage and rubedo and stuff. Getting 100k credits in one sitting isn't remotely hard, and the platinum cost is way to high for the account of credits you get. It should be 100k per 5 platinum. So, based on the ridiculous market prices, it seems like a good deal, but take into account that the cost for materials via platinum is already ludicrously high to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastikator2 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 I'll do a calculation for a comparison with foundry and the market. I'll use Amphis, assuming you have nothing, and nothing (0 resources) in your inventory at all. Amphis costs 150p in the market. Slot=6 Catalyst=20 Neurodes=20 Salvage=5 Circuits=12 Alloy=12 Credits=135 (Using the high roller credit bundle) Rush=45 All of these sums up to 255p. So the market price is lower still. We don't need stances, the price is low enough already. Okay maybe the credit roller is a bit of overkill. Minus it and you'll get 120p. Perhaps 30p lower than the market, but that still doesn't stop you from click spam each of the 4 resources plus the credit bundle and whatnot, and you still need to go to the foundry section to start crafting, as well as clicking rush. You'll get most the materials just by playing, especially the credits. Deducing half the materials and all of the credit costs puts it at 96. I support adding a stance to the melee weapon, buying a melee weapon for plat is a bad deal, there's a good reason few do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuroShiranui Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 (edited) You know how easy to obtain it, and most people have the resources, so why bother buying from the market then? Give stances if buying at the market? You can obtain the stances from trades, maybe like 25-30 plat. Actually, there is already a better implementation because i'm sure most people have enough resources to craft: Buy the bp, start crafting, rush, catalyst, and then trade some plat for stances. Still better than shelling out 150 plat that comes with a stance when everyone can obtain it through trades. This of course, is a bit more tedious. Or you could just farm the stances. And yes i'm using the market price to show you how ridiculously expensive it is. The only resource that's worth buying in the market besides Reactor/Catalyst/Forma I think is Oxium. Offtopic: I don't know why but i've seen some players looking for Forma nowadays. Because I still have plenty of it, and I am actively using forma for foundry and polarizing. Has the Orokin Void drop rates been reduced?? Edited August 22, 2014 by KuroShiranui Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Warframes purchased with plat do not come with Aura mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shadow_Of_Hunhow Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 (edited) You know how easy to obtain it, and most people have the resources, so why bother buying from the market then? Give stances if buying at the market? You can obtain the stances from trades, maybe like 25-30 plat. Actually, there is already a better implementation because i'm sure most people have enough resources to craft: Buy the bp, start crafting, rush, catalyst, and then trade some plat for stances. Still better than shelling out 150 plat that comes with a stance when everyone can obtain it through trades. This of course, is a bit more tedious. Or you could just farm the stances. And yes i'm using the market price to show you how ridiculously expensive it is. The only resource that's worth buying in the market besides Reactor/Catalyst/Forma I think is Oxium. Offtopic: I don't know why but i've seen some players looking for Forma nowadays. Because I still have plenty of it, and I am actively using forma for foundry and polarizing. Has the Orokin Void drop rates been reduced?? Unless the stance is Crimson Dervish, Gleaming Talon, Gnashing Payara, Eleventh Storm, Malicious Raptor, or one if the other super rate stances. Then you're looking at 60+ easy, over 100 for Raptor.Warframes purchased with plat do not come with Aura mods. But warframes don't only have one our two auras. The reason melee should is because you are severely limited in what your weapon is capable of without one. Frames on the other hand can do just fine without auras. Edited August 23, 2014 by (PS4)SCP-100912 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasmir Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Mmmmmmm nah you can always farm the common stance of the weapon unless doesnt have one like glaive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shadow_Of_Hunhow Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Mmmmmmm nah you can always farm the common stance of the weapon unless doesnt have one like glaive There's only a small handful that aren't near impossible to get. Otherwise they either come from a rare enemy or are rarer than a freaking shiny in pokemon, or in some cases both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KuroShiranui Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Unless the stance is Crimson Dervish, Gleaming Talon, Gnashing Payara, Eleventh Storm, Malicious Raptor, or one if the other super rate stances. Then you're looking at 60+ easy, over 100 for Raptor. Even +60 plat is lower than the market price when you combine with rush. As For Raptor, since Venka costs 175p, and rushing it is 35p, then you'd be needing to pay 140p more to get even. So 100 is still low. But in all seriousness, i've never seen someone selling the stance for above 100 yet, the highest I see is 75 so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 But warframes don't only have one our two auras. The reason melee should is because you are severely limited in what your weapon is capable of without one. Frames on the other hand can do just fine without auras. That's a biased opinion designed to support your argument. A melee weapon without a stance is just as effective as a warframe without an aura. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HackShield Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 just came here to give u a NOPE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickness24 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Maybe none of you bought it with plat, but the sylva and aegis i bought with plat came with the stance so basicly what the OP is suggesting has already occurred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shadow_Of_Hunhow Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share Posted August 24, 2014 Even +60 plat is lower than the market price when you combine with rush. As For Raptor, since Venka costs 175p, and rushing it is 35p, then you'd be needing to pay 140p more to get even. So 100 is still low. But in all seriousness, i've never seen someone selling the stance for above 100 yet, the highest I see is 75 so far. On PS4 it's selling for over 100. And you got to remember, it comes with a slot and a catalyst too. So, take the 6 for the slot, 35 for the rush, 20 for the catalyst. If you only paid for those you'd have paid 61, with the prices of the stance, you come out about the same. And you'd be better off on things like kestrel since it would come with gleaming talon, a mod that also goes for extremely high prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Warframes purchased with plat do not come with Aura mods. Hit the nail on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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