TotallyLagging Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Just got the full part today and I'm building it now. Do I build it for crit? Status? Mix of both? Pure damage? Do I need a lot of forma to max it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDRLOz Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) Depends what you wanted it to and mods you have available. I personally like to use it as a raw damage gun. It is fairly evenly spread between damage types so it does well against all factions. Serration, Barrel diffusion and lethal torrent are all mandatory on any build. After that the remaining 5 slots are up to you. Personally I would always spare one slot of Seeker as punch through means this pistol will be instant death between you and a few meters out. This gives you 4 slots In later games, later survival/defence or Tier 4, I find that the clip size is the only thing holding this gun back. I personally run all 4 elemental/status events mods for pistol. The base status is 10% + 4 event status mods + the pellet count with 180% multishot makes it easy to proc status effects If you don't have all these available to you just use the basic uncommon four elemental mods and you will be doing plenty of damage If you don't have seeker you will get a lot of benefit out of clip size/reload speed benefits to fill the only weakness of this weapon. If you have nightmare mods an Ice storm or stunning speed will give you a useful intermediate mod choice. In general the Brakk comes with one V and one - polarity. You will probably want to forma at least twice to add two more Vs. This will allow Serration, Lethal Torrent and Barrel diffusion to be on polarity as these are the most expensive pistol mods. Edited October 13, 2014 by MDRLOz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angius Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 1. Does it have over 25% crit chance? - Yes - build for crit - No - step 2 2. Does it have over 20% status chance? - Yes - build for status - No - step 3 3. Build for pure damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spobbles Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) This is the build I use. It lacks punch through which can be a pain, but it doesn't lack punch. Three Forma. Mostly crit with some elemental. http://goo.gl/WfpqHh Edited October 13, 2014 by Spobbles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyLagging Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 This is the build I use. It lacks punch through which can be a pain, but it doesn't lack punch. Three Forma. Mostly crit with some elemental. http://goo.gl/WfpqHh Well I admit I'm missing a lot of mods. Heck my Hornet Strike's not even maxed and I don't have Pathogen Rounds and Ice Storm. Is crit actually viable though? 33% at max is kinda low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil4458 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 http://warframe-builder.com/Secondary_Weapons/Builder/Brakk/t_30_23220030_193-2-5-195-4-5-196-5-5-198-7-5-202-1-5-204-0-10-206-3-5-209-6-5_204-7-202-6-193-6-206-6-195-11-196-9-209-6-198-9/en/3-0-4/30379/0 this is mine for grineer, if you want to use it for corpus or infested just swap the elements, this is for raw damage :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotimix3 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 My max damage build. Most damage per shot. http://warframe-builder.com/Secondary_Weapons/Builder/Brakk/t_30_23002232_193-5-5-195-3-5-196-2-5-202-1-5-204-0-10-206-4-5-207-7-10-209-6-5_204-7-202-6-196-9-195-11-206-6-193-6-209-6-207-7/en/3-0-4/0 I've used in t4 surv past an hour I've used it effectively in t4 surv to 1 hr and 20 and stop after that because i got the part I need not sure how long it effectively lasts but I definetly suggest my build. Best secondary by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deccode Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) For long survival/defense runs, you can't go better than this except your party has 4x corrosive projection auras then change the elemental and dual elemental mods for viral. http://warframe-builder.com/Secondary_Weapons/Builder/Brakk/t_30_30032220_193-6-5-195-3-5-204-4-10-206-7-5-207-5-10-209-0-5-212-1-3-263-2-3_209-6-212-7-263-7-195-6-204-7-207-7-193-6-206-11/en/3-0-4/0 Edited October 13, 2014 by Deccode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyLagging Posted October 13, 2014 Author Share Posted October 13, 2014 Damn that a lot of builds. Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spobbles Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Well I admit I'm missing a lot of mods. Heck my Hornet Strike's not even maxed and I don't have Pathogen Rounds and Ice Storm. Is crit actually viable though? 33% at max is kinda low. 33% per pellet, of which there are a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)PoeticProdigal Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 This is the build I use. It lacks punch through which can be a pain, but it doesn't lack punch. Three Forma. Mostly crit with some elemental. http://goo.gl/WfpqHh Can you explain how you got over 4000 corrosive damage using only Hornet Strike, Convulsion and Pathogen rounds. I put in the exact mods/ranks you did on my Brakk and only get 2419 Corrossive damage. In fact, every build listed on this thread has extremely high numbers but when you actually place these mods in-game they are significantly different. What gives bros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenBlade01 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Barrel Diffusion and Lethal Torrent = Multishot = the UI doubles damage of the various types even if you don't have 100% chance of multi-shot. However with both of those maxed you essentially do so it works in this instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)PoeticProdigal Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Barrel Diffusion and Lethal Torrent = Multishot = the UI doubles damage of the various types even if you don't have 100% chance of multi-shot. However with both of those maxed you essentially do so it works in this instance. So what you are saying is Warframe Builder displays damage differently than in-game. Again, I modded the EXACT same way as these builds in-game with much lower damage numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spobbles Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 So what you are saying is Warframe Builder displays damage differently than in-game. Again, I modded the EXACT same way as these builds in-game with much lower damage numbers. ZenBlade is correct, Warframe Builder gives you different numbers than in-game. In the Arsenal I get the same numbers as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)PoeticProdigal Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 ZenBlade is correct, Warframe Builder gives you different numbers than in-game. In the Arsenal I get the same numbers as you. So then how do you know what your REAL damage is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evil4458 Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 http://warframe-builder.com/Secondary_Weapons/Builder/Brakk/t_30_23220030_193-2-5-195-4-5-196-5-5-198-7-5-202-1-5-204-0-10-206-3-5-209-6-5_204-7-202-6-193-6-206-6-195-11-196-9-209-6-198-9/en/3-0-4/30379/0 this is mine for grineer, if you want to use it for corpus or infested just swap the elements, this is for raw damage :P switch my build's deep freeze (or another element) to gunslinger (maxed) and see what happens to the burst dps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Hiero_Glyph Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 @PoeticProdigal You don't. In truth all of the listed stats are just theoretical as it assumes 100% accuracy and no damage fall-off. Take Seeker for example, no stat represents how piercing multiple enemies will increase the damage dealt. In some cases you are only hitting 1 enemy while in others you are hitting 3+. Think of these damage values as a representation of what could occur in the actual game. Critical chance, status chance, fall-off distance, spread, etc. are all variables that affect the damage you actually deal. The best you can do is maximize the values with the understanding that critical chance may not proc or that some/all of the pellets may miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)PoeticProdigal Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 @PoeticProdigal You don't. In truth all of the listed stats are just theoretical as it assumes 100% accuracy and no damage fall-off. Take Seeker for example, no stat represents how piercing multiple enemies will increase the damage dealt. In some cases you are only hitting 1 enemy while in others you are hitting 3+. Think of these damage values as a representation of what could occur in the actual game. Critical chance, status chance, fall-off distance, spread, etc. are all variables that affect the damage you actually deal. The best you can do is maximize the values with the understanding that critical chance may not proc or that some/all of the pellets may miss. Understandable. I guess what I'm trying to ask is why does the Warframe builder calculate damage so differently? What are they factoring in that gives such higher stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Just got the full part today and I'm building it now. Do I build it for crit? Status? Mix of both? Pure damage? Do I need a lot of forma to max it?
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