Loki Permanent Invis Build, Worth It?

[anti_tank]

Can any body tell me how long you can go invisible with the narrow minded mod maxed? And is it really worth it? I love invisibility and radial disarm, but it's either one or the other, I'm rather comfortable with the invis and radial disarm build, it's very diverse. Though this all might change in the next update, just wondering if the build is worth all those fusion cores.

[PixalatedVortex]

My Dakra gets like 100 k on my Loki build but I don't have Narrow Minded max but the build is enjoyable you should try it for the fun factor

[Runabou]

Can any body tell me how long you can go invisible with the narrow minded mod maxed? And is it really worth it? I love invisibility and radial disarm, but it's either one or the other, I'm rather comfortable with the invis and radial disarm build, it's very diverse. Though this all might change in the next update, just wondering if the build is worth all those fusion cores.

My suggestion is to wait until U15 to get this opinion. If you haven't watched the DevStream, allow me to enlighten you that they're removing the abilities from, not only the drops, but the frames themselves. A lot of mechanics will change, so don't expect the build to be truly viable until after the release of the major update.

[Ninjamander]

worth it until you get hit by a big bleeding, toxic or fire proc...

Edited October 23, 2014 by Ninjamander

[Inversus]

With 4/5 fleeting + full narrow minded I believe I get 25s of invis which I can sustain 100% of the time (best to use energy siphon)

 

Edit: With this build I can also spam radial disarm with a pretty good range pretty much as much as I want

so it works

Edited October 22, 2014 by Inversus

[RoboDoge]

Really depends on your playstile. If you are solo player go for permainvis, if you want to be more useful for team, go for RD build.

[Anatolius]

Some people like the perma invis

but I kinda hit a middle ground and stick to 22 seconds and a very fair range on my radial disarm

though to be fair

I use swindle helmet so I already have a range advantage

 

but I am excited for the new update to give me 2 extra slots

I will be able to do alot more as I never forma'd an ability slot

Edited October 22, 2014 by Anatolius

[PandemicLegions]

Can any body tell me how long you can go invisible with the narrow minded mod maxed? And is it really worth it? I love invisibility and radial disarm, but it's either one or the other, I'm rather comfortable with the invis and radial disarm build, it's very diverse. Though this all might change in the next update, just wondering if the build is worth all those fusion cores.

 

Why is it one or the other? My build has 14 seconds of invis, maxed range radial disarm, and maxed efficiency, all with no forma spent. While it may be fun to you, you'll be a liability to your team and you will ALWAYS get flak if you ever decide to join a void game with the intention of running a perma-invis build.

Edited October 22, 2014 by PandemicLegions

[(PSN)IIIDevoidIII]

I do believe the maximum amount of time you can squeeze into it is 28 seconds. I can get 24 or so with one forma.

 

Moved to a more appropriate section.

[Ronyn]

I find the perma invisibility build to be generally boring.

The enemies mostly just being unaware of me until they are cut in half for the whole map is just boring for my tastes.

[RoboDoge]

Good thing with Loki is that you can balance Invisibility and Radial Disarm. Swindle Helmet+Overextended for range, and Constitution and Continuity for duration, and you still have 2 more mod slots. With Loki Prime i would go for Streamline and Redirection.

 

 

My build is all 4 powers, Redirection, Stretch, Overextended, Flow, Streamline, Continuity. And Swindle Helmet. With that i got maximum range with some decent duration on Invisibility.

[Brimir]

I prefer max range/efficiency for an uber Radial Disarm over perma-Invisibility, personally.

 

Mainly because once disarmed, Corpus and Grineer are easy pickings in melee even without Invisibility.

Edited October 22, 2014 by Brimir

[anti_tank]

Why is it one or the other? My build has 14 seconds of invis, maxed range radial disarm, and maxed efficiency, all with no forma spent. While it may be fun to you, you'll be a liability to your team and you will ALWAYS get flak if you ever decide to join a void game with the intention of running a perma-invis build.

I was on about either radial disarm and invis build or the perma invis build, that's what I was talking when I said one or other. And I'm not asking because I think the build will be fun, the abilities that Loki has are already fun.

[Ptylerdactyl]

i think this is my current build: http://goo.gl/RSK8Ii
29 seconds of invis, with decent range as well for disarm. it works fine for me only having 30% efficiency. negative strength won't kill shield drones eventually but ehh it still works fine for everything i do by myself/with friends so whatever. 

Edited October 22, 2014 by Ptylerdactyl

[-Ozymandias-]

if you play solo yes

if you play with others then no

[Sharrack]

You could also go narrow minded + overextended + any/all other range/time mods as loki doesn't care about powerstrength.

[anti_tank]

Thanks for the feed back ya'll, especially the ones who put down the invisibility time.

[Epicagemo]

I was on about either radial disarm and invis build or the perma invis build, that's what I was talking when I said one or other. And I'm not asking because I think the build will be fun, the abilities that Loki has are already fun.

After some time, with a max efficiency/range build, you'll actually find your self too lazy to use invisibility, but its nice to have on the bar. U15 will add that to the bar, so why would you choose only one?

[Liqier]

Maxed narrow continuity and constitution - 30 sec

 

Try http://warframe-builder.com/

 

you can plan your bulid here and calculate mod effect

Edited October 22, 2014 by Liqier

[ServareVitas]

Radial disarm doesn't need range if you have switch teleport.... Just sayin'. 

[alioth87]

I think U15 won't change Loki build at all, it only allows for add natural talent (so you can simply go invis/rd without being busted) and constitution. As a matter of fact, i doubt it will really change builds at all (only allows for adding mods to burst survivability if you modded for utility and viceversa). Abilities will still be the same, so not all of 'em are mandatory maxed.

@OP: i use a build with Stretch, 4/5 Streamline and Fleeting Expertise (one to max both to reach the efficiency cap), Continuity, Overextended and Narrow Minded (3 to max to not reduce too much duration). In U15 i'll probably add Constitution to increase duration (and maybe fine-tuning Narrow Minded rank) and Natural Talent to minimize casting time and thus providing more mobility and survivability (way more than Redirection/Vitality, 'cause Invisibility halved-cast-timed casted midair grants you basically full invisibility).

Edited October 22, 2014 by alioth87

[Kz.Prime]

Perma invis is definitely worth it ( only soloing for me) but do also invest on RD build for voids

Full duration gives 30 sec on invis

Continuety , constitution and narrow minded maxed

But thats still not the so called " perma invis" since invis cost 50 energy per pop. In some situations , u will run out of energy.

best perma invis is 26 second invis ?

And like 13 energy per invis

Ull be gaining 13 energy from energy siphon so thats pretty much the best option for the build .