Let's Have A Change Of Pace. Passives Abilities Anyone?

[Damurah]

Okay, lets all calm down with all this LoS and syndicate rep problems. I was thinking of a new game mechanic where each frame would have a passive ability that also affects other frames in a squad.

 

For e.g.

 

Valkyr would give a boost on squad melee or perhaps their armor?

Trinity might give a boost on squad energy regen that stacks with energy siphon.

Loki maybe boost the squads stealth and reduces enemies ability to detect you and etc.

 

I'm sure the community or DE is more creative than me and can probably think of better passives. So what do you guys think? With proper balancing and what not i'm sure its a good idea and think about the squad combinations you can think of. It could probably give a new way of playing warframe.

[Rakshal]

Valkyr would give a boost on squad melee or perhaps their armor?

Valkyr already does that.

 

Bard frame anyone? :3

Edited November 14, 2014 by Rakshal

[Damurah]

Valkyr already does that.

 

Bard frame anyone? :3

if the squad mate is in range of the power tho, i mean like an always passive effect regardless of where the squad mates are. the passive ability should scale with rank just like the power abilities but are not affected by mods.

[(XBOX)ShapelessHorr0r]

They're called Auras.

[HellEnforcer]

This has been proposed before a few times. I am not sure if it went under the table or they didn't like the idea.

Still good to see that the idea is still around. I hope it gets implemented in some way.

[4ever4gotin]

I've always put passives with our auras. And we can change them out whenever we want, that being said of course the amount of formas in your WF will determine if you current build still remains valid.

 

Because all these extra things i think aren't that necessary.

[Kaiser_Suoh]

LoS will never be a good idea because DE wanted to apply Realistic Logic in the game.

Edited November 14, 2014 by Kaiser_Suoh

[Damurah]

They're called Auras

im not talking about mods. im talking about innate passives that are specific to the warframe

[Devarook]

Maybe make them more lore based?

 

Valkyr - Increased Hysteria damage vs Corpus. Additional damage boost against Alad V. (Corpus will have a slight red glow around them for Valkyr only)

 

Mirage - Increased melee damage when below 20% health. (You can hear her laughing when her passive is active)

 

Something like those?

[Damurah]

LoS will never be a good idea because DE wanted to apply Realistic Logic in the game.

Lets not bring the LoS debate here

[.Monarch]

LoS will never be a good idea because DE wanted to apply Realistic Logic in the game.

 

Magnetism does not require line of sight.

 

DE just want to make #4 useless. So people can't press #4 and things drop dead.

Which I find it hilarious, seeing as #4 supposed to be the ultimate skill. If pressing a button doesn't make things dead, I don't see what's the difference between #4 and #1.

 

Everything, was fine the way it was.

Including Viver and interception.

The entire problem brewed from Syndicate Standing tied directly to Affinity gain.

Edited November 14, 2014 by [DE]Danielle
Removed maliciousness

[Damurah]

Maybe make them more lore based?

 

Valkyr - Increased Hysteria damage vs Corpus. Additional damage boost against Alad V. (Corpus will have a slight red glow around them for Valkyr only)

 

Mirage - Increased melee damage when below 20% health. (You can hear her laughing when her passive is active)

 

Something like those?

That sounds cool. yeah maybe the passives can be more lore base that would make things a lot more interesting

[Devarook]

That sounds cool. yeah maybe the passives can be more lore base that would make things a lot more interesting

Looking back at Ember and Mag's codex entries;

 

Ember - Increased ability damage vs Orokin

 

Mag - Increased Sidearm damage while near a downed teammate (maybe give them her pistol while they are down via "z"?)

 

Since these would be passives I don't think they should go higher than a 2-5% bonus.

[Lost_Cartographer]

I imagine the reason the frames don't have their own passives is because it would further encourage "must use" frames.  Always, there will be the risk of there being "the" frame to bring to a group because it's passive is just that good.  So while the idea is really cool, even sounding natural (like the idea of Ember being resilient to fire) aura mods are a good compromise between providing buffs to the group and not favoring any one frame any more than their four abilities and statistical differences already do.

Edited November 14, 2014 by Littleman88

[ArchPhaeton]

im not talking about mods. im talking about innate passives that are specific to the warframe

You obviously aren't talking about mods but this is what auras are supposed to do, and the faction-specific damage mods.

Unnecessary IMO.

[Damurah]

I imagine the reason the frames don't have their own passives is because it would further encourage "must use" frames.  Always, there will be the risk of there being "the" frame to bring to a group because it's passive is just that good.  So while the idea is really cool, even sounding natural (like the idea of Ember being resilient to fire) aura mods are a good compromise between providing buffs to the group and not favoring any one frame any more than their four abilities and statistical differences already do.

Perhaps not making these passives OP to a point where they become the favoured warframe would be a fix to this? Maybe only a 5% increase to a certain stat. It might just be a nice add on in my opinion and i wouldnt say unnecessary

[(PSN)NavajoShaman]

Lol....you mean Aura mods.