(PSN)Zeylon Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 The Mirage Quest, in my opinion, was done right: You do the missions and guaranteed get the part drop, wait for it to craft, then get the other parts. No keys, no extra waiting past the part crafting, and a storyline that doesn't suck. Why did the formula get reversed back to RNG and waitwalls so quickly? This is what I was expecting with Limbo, then I had to excavate Earth literally 40 times to get a helmet blueprint. It sounds like Mesa will be worse. The current direction of the quests if abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherIcarus Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I feel DE are testing the waters as it were, seeing how far they can push before they meet resistance. The mirage quest didn't have much grinding involved, as I remember there was actually no RNG or grinding if you did the quest properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noveltyhero Posted November 30, 2014 Author Share Posted November 30, 2014 A year later you're still here doing the same thing? Sounds like to me they're doing something right for you. No, just Warframe being the only multiplayer game my internet can support :/ I actually got Banshee the old way faster than mesa, but that's just RNG and such. After three days of hunting for invasion missions, i got a key and put a key share squad together. three helmets and a systems. Guess i'll have to wait another three days to get another key, and then twelve hours to craft the parts, then ANOTHER three days to craft the frame (if i don't just rush it, which at this point is tempting) If the current system is going to stay, could we at least get more common missions rewarding these coords? I have clanmates who have done 8 runs and are still missing parts for mesa, four runs all dropping the same part, and others who gave up on mesa. The Mirage Quest, in my opinion, was done right: You do the missions and guaranteed get the part drop, wait for it to craft, then get the other parts. No keys, no extra waiting past the part crafting, and a storyline that doesn't suck. Why did the formula get reversed back to RNG and waitwalls so quickly? Haha same, getting Vauban was easier for me, because it didn't feel so close but Mesa feels close due to quest however it is really far away in terms of acquisition :/ I feel DE are testing the waters as it were, seeing how far they can push before they meet resistance. The mirage quest didn't have much grinding involved, as I remember there was actually no RNG or grinding if you did the quest properly. The Mirage quest absolutely excellent because of that. As a community we eventually accepted the time walls because there was no grind. Now however we get time walls AND grind which is a major issues in my opinion. Also quests are so damn lackluster, the content delivered is like a text based game, it doesn't have anything unique added to it which kind of sucks because there is so much potential for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innocent_Flower Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I kinda liked limbo's quest more than mirages (except needing archwing. That was BS) Mirage's riddles were awful. I originaly hated the waitwall. But it's so much more preferable to Hydroids crap, and hydroid's crap was so much more preferable to the monstrosity that is mesa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonRon Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I made a suggestion about the rng drop problem here https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/361516-mesa-rng-problems-also-suggestion/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ov3rd0se Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Nekros was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserkerkitten Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I'm not sure whether the whole Mesa-mess is unintentional and the quest and the whole grind around it is just bad or whether they deliberately made it so tedious and frustrating in order to tempt more people to just go and spend some real money instead. I've always considered Warframe to be one of the fairest Free2Play games out there, where you can get pretty much everything you want within reasonable amounts of time, even if you don't want to spend money. But I can't help but feel they really want people to hate everything involving Mesa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnagar Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 We need to get rid of RNG for quest missions and keep RNG for void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)torvahn Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 just farm some r5s max a couple heavy cals and sell them then buy the set with plat probably a lot easier and you get more out of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnagar Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 just farm some r5s max a couple heavy cals and sell them then buy the set with plat probably a lot easier and you get more out of it That's a joke right? Ppl are trying to sell the keys for 40+ Sell some r5s? Lawl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)torvahn Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 That's a joke right? Ppl are trying to sell the keys for 40+ Sell some r5s? Lawl run t4 survival -> acquire cores -> max out heavy cal -> sell heavy cal -> buy mesa from shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnagar Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) run t4 survival -> acquire cores -> max out heavy cal -> sell heavy cal -> buy mesa from shopHeavy cal would take forever to max rank, "some r5s" aren't going to cut it. Plus heavy cal doesn't drop in t4 survival That just sounds like more of a chore then it would to just farm Mesa >_< Edited December 9, 2014 by Magnagar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyLoneZ Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 just farm some r5s max a couple heavy cals and sell them then buy the set with plat probably a lot easier and you get more out of it Do you realized how stupid your statement is? Maxing HC requires exactly 396 r5. Doesn't look like "some" to me. Besides, that doesn't address the main issue, which is RNG and wait-wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)torvahn Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Do you realized how stupid your statement is? Maxing HC requires exactly 396 r5. Doesn't look like "some" to me. Besides, that doesn't address the main issue, which is RNG and wait-wall. ahh sorry i forgot not everyone is capable of running 2hours+ in t4, they spend most of their time complaining on forums rather than manning up and going farming their content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnagar Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) ahh sorry i forgot not everyone is capable of running 2hours+ in t4, they spend most of their time complaining on forums rather than manning up and going farming their content. You must not understand the mechanics of farming. You can't accumulate 400 r5 cores within 2 hours... That would be way too easy. Edited December 9, 2014 by Magnagar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyLoneZ Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 ahh sorry i forgot not everyone is capable of running 2hours+ in t4, they spend most of their time complaining on forums rather than manning up and going farming their content. Because running 2hours+ in t4s give you ~400 r5 fusion cores right? OH, wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dis_conected Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Half of those damn mods should be buffs to the actual thing, I see them as a way to avoid buffing what needs to be buffed. Right now I fear for the direction of this game. I mean we don't have lock boxes yet, right? Yet... *From a secret location with a giant pw sign on it inside there is a long table seating several bureaucratic monkeys and evil soulless share holders and at the end sits a figure shrouded in darkness and is says in a wicked raspy voice* SOON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)torvahn Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 honestly mind boggling how poor some of your comprehension is, i said farm some r5s, being able to do 2 hours or more is going to be greatly beneficial to speed up the process in farming those cores not to mention the thousand other mods you will recieve throughout the missions, im just saying it would be faster to farm the plat through however you guys on pc make your plat, then buying the set rather than doing the mission. clue up ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KonRon Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 in survival you get a drop each five minutes so twelve drops per hour, if you are "SO LUCKY" to get r5 (x5) cores in all the drops you must be very happy but when you gonna need any other drop from that tower you gonna shoot on your feet 2 hous = 24 drops x 5 = 120 cores to get 400 cores you gonna need to play seven hours and not even in that time you gonna get that amount of cores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyLoneZ Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) You meant the thousand other mods that you get from spamming Draco mindlessly for 1 week? just farm some r5s max a couple heavy cals and sell them then buy the set with plat probably a lot easier and you get more out of it just farm some r5s max a couple heavy cals max a couple heavy cals max a couple You're the one that needs a clue. Edited December 9, 2014 by xyLoneZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknow99 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Hey... That's right!! Quests were meant to be a way to reduce the grind! :o Look at it now... It might become like everything else! They also have gotten better with distractions. The event and Syndicate weapons are distracting the common player from realizing how deep the grind is for Mesa. Outrage might not reach peak levels until the 5th or so. Edited December 9, 2014 by unknow99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Dantos- Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) I didnt find the limbo grind to be that bad, the worst I had it was waiting for the pieces to finish building. I brought a frost prime and I was able to group up with a couple of people and we knocked out the pieces in 30-40mins a run if not sooner. Mesa was worse, but only because I couldnt grind the mission, I had to wait. Edited December 9, 2014 by Vanroe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noveltyhero Posted December 9, 2014 Author Share Posted December 9, 2014 Please guys stay on topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeromanicus Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Rather sadly, i have not finished the Alad V quest for Mesa, but i have a Mesa acquired without plat. I just gave my spare coords to clanners and ran it with them. Don't really have a reason to complete it, doesnt get you the parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I agree, they should at least make quest feel unique beyond a few flavor text. I don't understand why they need to reskin the same old grind missions without ANY change. It's it technically difficult to add variation to these missions? There is so much they could've done to hive missions to make it more befitting of a unique quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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