Phoenix86 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Come on DE, seriously? Keys and mods on 4th wave? Like we dont ALREADY have to deal with? - Noobs - Undergeared ppl - Afkers - Leechers - Leavers - Laag - Disconnections - 5 Archwing Parts Yeah let's just add to the pool ALL the keys and 5+ Archwing Mods everyone already has! It will be really funny and stimolating get that last part of *insert_name_of_something_you_miss* You already did this in the Void, now in Archwing. WTF wasnt there already enough RNG and difficulty? I aint gonna spend plats for those damned Elytron wings while i sit on 5+ of all the other parts and countless keys, i swear. If Keys & Mods are gonna stay on rotation C then move Archwing parts also into Rotation A & B and make it fair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawn11715 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 +1 grindwall is the only thing wrong with AW..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuiteCrazy Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 People aspecially veterans don't like Archwing and this is making it even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuyver Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Considering how much DE cheapened tower 4 keys with making them available for purchase I can wholeheartedly agree that it's a dumb idea. It's just really poor design and completely undesired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ShadowNekrosys Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 +1 I don't have any reason to play archwing. And put everything into rotation C is just as stupid as putting mag/latron/sicarus everywhere in the void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---Merchant--- Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 NORMAL MODE KEYS IN ARCHWING MODE REWARDS TABLEjust think about how *-*/*/-**- great idea it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amorax Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) I'm starting to wonder if DE is actually listening to the player feedback. There have been a lot of complains about the massive grind and that we want it to be decreased. Even a lot of good suggestions that could lessen the grind while still having us work for it. Instead they increased the grind more for the Void and now Archwing as well. Guess I'll never get that last Onorix part now. Edited January 5, 2015 by Amorax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 It really doesnt make any sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyr-Umbra Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Grind is good for DE, it keeps people playing (so log as they don't get frustrated and quit). I like the grind, to a point, but when I'm in day 3 of my elytron farm, I begin to get frustrated... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haolee510 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 To be fair it's not hard to do Caelus over and over and over. It just wastes too much time given how random the drop table is. I've got all Elytron parts in one try, been trying to get Fluctus Stock(IIRC) and all I get is Centaur Blade again and again. IMO it's not as bad as Void. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) To be fair it's not hard to do Caelus over and over and over. It just wastes too much time given how random the drop table is. I've got all Elytron parts in one try, been trying to get Fluctus Stock(IIRC) and all I get is Centaur Blade again and again. IMO it's not as bad as Void. you say so 'cause you've been EXTREMELY LUCKY, fact is that, when you miss 1 item in a pool of 15+ items well... you have less then 8% chance to get what you need... and given that every chance takes AT BEST 12 mins (3 min/wave), at worst over 30 mins... THIS IS TOTALLY UNFAIR It was already a 20% chance (kinda low but imho "OK") now is over 2 times less! Edited January 5, 2015 by Phoenix86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haolee510 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 you say so 'cause you've been EXTREMELY LUCKY, fact is that, when you miss 1 item in a pool of 15+ items well... you have less then 8% chance to get what you need... and given that every chance takes AT BEST 12 mins (3 min/wave), at worst over 30 mins... THIS IS TOTALLY UNFAIR It was already a 20% chance (kinda low but imho "OK") now is over 2 times less! It will only get worse later, though, if DE decides to keep making Archwing parts drop like Void reward, and not adding more Archwing mission nodes. Better grind it like hell now, before more and more gets added to the reward table. Best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 It will only get worse later, though, if DE decides to keep making Archwing parts drop like Void reward, and not adding more Archwing mission nodes. Better grind it like hell now, before more and more gets added to the reward table. Best of luck. that's what i'm doing since... well since the event basically, i didnt play much AW before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haolee510 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 that's what i'm doing since... well since the event basically, i didnt play much AW before Me, too. But the event has me hooked. Well, not the event itself, since it was boring. But it made me like Archwing enough to give a damn. Hope DE doesn't get discouraged from many people in the forums hating on Archwing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Me, too. But the event has me hooked. Well, not the event itself, since it was boring. But it made me like Archwing enough to give a damn. Hope DE doesn't get discouraged from many people in the forums hating on Archwing. True dat, i wasnt interested in AW at all before... the event made me like them even if it wasnt that great itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratir Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 We need orokin cells in there also!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 (edited) uranium offers very bad rewards :) so i don't play archwing anymore... its huge waste of time i was top damage dealer in 80-90% in all my games (since years) and i am THE MAN who carry all the trash-random-noobs :) but current situation with horrible rewards is breaking my neck edit for Phoenix86 maybe it could be useful for u if u have elytron already: u can spam ely's 3 ability near attacked spot and will carry all the noobs with 70-90% group damage Edited January 5, 2015 by fuffi2milka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rook_Prime Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 True dat, i wasnt interested in AW at all before... the event made me like them even if it wasnt that great itself I'm pretty sure that's what DE was aiming for in making this an archwing event - for people to have to play archwing and realise that with the mod drop increases etc it's not as bad as they remember from first release. I know plenty of people who've picked up a good few of the defensive and elemental damage mods, midranked their gear and now find archwing more fun. Tbh archwing early game sucked for a lot of people (maybe add broken archwing mods? And that no wings running in space glitch with the end of the archwing intro questline was a pain for helping new players into it), mid game is pretty sweet once you know to never stop moving, and endgame is pretty nonexistent unless you want to brave the netcode to take uranus interception up to stupidly high rounds, or you purposely kit yourself out in rubbish gear for a challenge. Plus archwing doesn't give you anything to help with regular game modes (other than tonnes of gallium), just better archwing stuff in the hopes it'll be useful in the future. I wonder if a future event will be the opposite of this one - instead of doing ground work to get material to build thing to be able to do the archwing part they reverse it. That'd be interesting to see the playerbase response, particularly if they made those components tradeable like limbo theorem proof fragments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haolee510 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 limbo theorem proof fragments. Those proof fragments used to be a pain in the &#! to get. I didn't even got through the first AW Interception mission. After this event, I laughed at the face of those Grineer Dagryns and Ogmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SancticuS Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 What I still don't get is why they made the archwing weapons untradable, that at least would alleviate some of the grind. I had to do 14 solo run of Uranus Interception when all the bugs with out of bounds enemies, forced extraction, host migration etc etc was happening before I got my hands on the Elytron. The grind for it actually made me loathe archwing. So if that is what DE's plans are they have succeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Making AW parts would partially solve the problem yeah... An easier way should be add rewards to rotations A & B... hell what are those rotation for?? they become redundant and useless after 3-4 runs (1 day at best) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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