Shailocke Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 can you confirm that because the way I'm considering reacting will make all the nerf-herders who have ever graced these forums, ever, look ta me by comparison. DE said a while ago (pre-Eyes of Blight IIRC) that they're incrementally buffing things, hence the reason why new gear isn't that great on launch (such as the Gammacor or the Kohm). They find it more effective to gradually buff something to prevent them from going overboard with one giant buff/nerf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedingbus Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 DE said a while ago (pre-Eyes of Blight IIRC) that they're incrementally buffing things, hence the reason why new gear isn't that great on launch (such as the Gammacor or the Kohm). They find it more effective to gradually buff something to prevent them from going overboard with one giant buff/nerf So make every new weapon trash on fear of it being OP than just maybe they decide to come back and buff it? Seems like a stupid strategy to me so why don't they just test these things first instead of throwing them out there and see what fails miserably. Also I really miss Embers damage reduction skill sure it didn't make much sense but it definitely kept her more relevant at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swihart91 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Not all u lts are suppose to be an end all to the enemies in the area, accelerant is still strong if used correctly yes this wasn't the best thing they could do but as stated they are taking baby steps as to not make her op. Now then I shall go back to playing banshee waiting for her prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashashou Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Heya quiet , the short of it is that - ember is still very much broken and looks to remain that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qynchou Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Heya quiet , the short of it is that - ember is still very much broken and looks to remain that way No, Scott is balancing things and the change of ember is a sign of that. Hopefully the duration will be removed and only the channeling cost will remain so people can expand on builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djangofett Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I know that feeling, that's what DE does, A huge round of Applause for our beloved dev's ples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aoguro Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) The thing is Ember is arguably the worst frame out there and didn't deserve a single nerf. The buffs although nice only differs that she won't die that quik. What Ember needs is utility, utility and utility. Accelerant is currently all she has. you said: WORST ?! go for glasses ... =) ps: the comment above was before i tested my hardly formaed ember prime to its best ............................................................ now i tested my ember prime and all what i can say is, DE, pull yer wyrmius, noggles, nerfings of whatever and other madness somehwere but not on me as a paying customer, you start becoming a fail ... just mentioning again and it could happen that i call your "offers/changes" of the last few days a fail again until i leave warframe with a loss of more then 1000 bucks ... again, stop doing s*ck things to us ... are some of you on heavy drugs, DE ? seriously ... or did electronic arts buy you as a company because i know only one company which do sick things like that in general ... EA ! Edited January 22, 2015 by VOR73X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubbi Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) you said: WORST ?! go for glasses ... =) Nvm Im confused. I misspelled. Edited January 22, 2015 by kubbi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aratir Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 So a toggleable ability with 10 sec duration after which it ends......... hahaha its perfect, now we need a selfheal ability that kills the user instantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sitchrea Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 I come back to the forums after 2 weeks of not playing warframe or doing more than glancing at the forums. I see "ember change megathread" and my brains freezes with excitement. I knew today was humpday but is it finally the day that the worst frame in the game, and my absolute favorite, gets the rework job that oberon got but even better because ember was worse off? I skip straight to it in the patch notes. I look for the rest of it. There isn't any. They buffed her armor... barely. Her stamina and movespeed... okay? They added a tiny something to fire blast... why? They debatably nerfed WoF... I haven't play tested anything yet but it's all spelled out clearly enough on paper that I can't imagine that I'm not understanding exactly what these changes mean. I'm sitting here feeling like a teen girl. I literally can't even. I'm stumped. Should I complain? Did I miss something? Is that it? Is this the point of breaking where I finally just lose it? I feel like I should go out in a blaze of glory on the biggest troll-hate-spam crusade I can muster but I'm just so damn confused. Do you think that DE is a content ATM? They can't make a completely new game in two weeks - chill out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2old4gamez Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 ..I haven't play tested anything yet.. Maybe you should. Who's opinion on the Ember fixes will you trust more, yours with it's prior knowledge of the Frame, or a Joe Random on the forums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishki88 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Can we stop calling the change a buff or a nerf? It's balance. Ember can now take some bullets to the temple. But. Her Efficiency and Utility went down. [DE]Balance :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietcanary Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'm gonna take the nerf as a mistake and the paltry buff as a first step. Other wise I'd have to start the whole feedback process all over again trying to fix it. It would probably end the same way as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aoguro Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Nvm Im confused. I misspelled. np, im deeply emberassed about DE's high tactical and intelligent manoveurs till december 2014 ... im really open to learn a lifetime, if there is smth to learn ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziegrif Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Ditch duration completely on WoF and I think she'll be fiiiiiiiine.~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)YankeeClippah Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Honestly I really like Ember now. The changes to her 3 make it amazing, and the increased cast speed on her 4 helps alot. Enough so nat talent isnt a requirement anymore ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quietcanary Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 More is coming out and I'm optimistic now ty everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SofeSNBR Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Well problem here is, DE doesnt like ember. That is reason why they just did something and though "good enough, now we can nerf trinity" Edited January 22, 2015 by (PS4)SofeSNBR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meneliki Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 RTLFC Well, speaking as someone who HAS tested ember(vanilla Ember, no prime) recently I can tell you that IMO she's a powerhouse. I use Natural Talent on my Ember build and the amount of burst damage you can pull with her now is insane. I LOVE the new Ember. I can't wait to find the last ember prime piece so I can start playing with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealPandemonium Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Well, at least there's wyrminus. Ember's armor was increased by 6x or something. That gives a little something of a bonus. Not that bad, higher armor values than rhino. Ember Prime armor 125 Rhino armor 190 ??? Please refrain from posting random, uncertain information on the forums. We have enough bullS#&$ to sift through already. Edited January 22, 2015 by RealPandemonium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_NoScope Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 II knew today was humpday but is it finally the day that the worst frame in the game, and my absolute favorite, gets the rework job that oberon got but even better because ember was worse off? finally the day that the worst frame in the game worst frame in the game ... U wot m8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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