BlutAdler Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Here's to hoping the DE addresses this new fad of "farming" in the void. Had someone tell me the best way to get to 40 minutes in Survival was to use this new method of "camping" in the voids. People don't learn from Viver and E-Gate that people are shooting themselves in the foot. Ridiculous. EDIT: This is less about the actual method of playing around in one room and sticking it out to as long as you're staying and more about people deciding to sit in a hallway, set on a macro or press a button every once in a while for 40 minutes... then bash/shun/kick you or waste your key for not following suit. Edited March 31, 2015 by BlutAdler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaSiLB Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) because humans dont learn Edited March 30, 2015 by BaSiLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---Merchant--- Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 what is bad about camping? imagine zombie apocalypse would u not camp somewhere for night?Here u camp just for 2-4hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravalite Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I just don't understand why it's a problem. If I am able to sit at the end of a hallway and kill things before they get to me why is it a problem? I'm just playing in the most efficient way is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Really whats the problem? Big kidz dont play with you because of MR1 and low gear? Camping is a good way to stay in the void, game mechanics alows it, also we have frames for exactly that method... Seriously, whats the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlutAdler Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Really whats the problem? Big kidz dont play with you because of MR1 and low gear? Camping is a good way to stay in the void, game mechanics alows it, also we have frames for exactly that method... Seriously, whats the problem? Ohhh nice personal attack "grand master"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altey Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Ohhh nice personal attack "grand master"! they're founders so what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ograzzt Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Camping is the only way to do several hours survivals. But people are lazy and now they do this even in t1 from the very start. This is not exploit, just a choice for players how to play. You can do it or not, you don't get more rewards if you camping anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moasiac Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 But camping isn't new at all. And up to 40 minutes, you can run around with your head cut off with little problem. Camping is almost necessary past that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diablol Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 People were camping in survivals years before egate or viver were a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CY13ERPUNK Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 what is bad about camping? imagine zombie apocalypse would u not camp somewhere for night? Here u camp just for 2-4hours I just don't understand why it's a problem. If I am able to sit at the end of a hallway and kill things before they get to me why is it a problem? I'm just playing in the most efficient way is all. Really whats the problem? Big kidz dont play with you because of MR1 and low gear? Camping is a good way to stay in the void, game mechanics alows it, also we have frames for exactly that method... Seriously, whats the problem? Camping is the only way to do several hours survivals. But people are lazy and now they do this even in t1 from the very start. This is not exploit, just a choice for players how to play. You can do it or not, you don't get more rewards if you camping anyway. all of the above player haters have now chosen to burn crosses against whatever effective/efficient tactic is in fashion atm =/ isnt it great how the massive influx of the post-wow mmorpg crowd has influenced WF? ya? oh? no? ya i thought so... =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p3z1 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Here's to hoping the DE addresses this new fad of "farming" in the void. Had someone tell me the best way to get to 40 minutes in Survival was to use this new method of "camping" in the voids. People don't learn from Viver and E-Gate that people are shooting themselves in the foot. Ridiculous. Because: I just don't understand why it's a problem. If I am able to sit at the end of a hallway and kill things before they get to me why is it a problem? I'm just playing in the most efficient way is all. The game is a grindfest, why not find a way to reduce said grind, or make it easier. Players will find a way to quicken the grind due to all these grindwalls. Whether you are a new player or a 2 year old player, you WILL burnout sooner or later and need ways to grind the fastest way possible. Really whats the problem? Big kidz dont play with you because of MR1 and low gear? Camping is a good way to stay in the void, game mechanics alows it, also we have frames for exactly that method... Seriously, whats the problem? Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlutAdler Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 all of the above player haters have now chosen to burn crosses against whatever effective/efficient tactic is in fashion atm =/ isnt it great how the massive influx of the post-wow mmorpg crowd has influenced WF? ya? oh? no? ya i thought so... =/ Sitting in a corner for 40 mintues is a tactic? And you're calling it effecient/effective. It kills the game. And I'm saying you're shooting yourself in the foot its because when DE changes something in the game that EFFECTS EVERYONE then you all swoop to forums to cry out your hearts. This new trend of finding the laziest way to play a game mode is getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altey Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Sitting in a corner for 40 mintues is a tactic? And you're calling it effecient/effective. It kills the game. And I'm saying you're shooting yourself in the foot its because when DE changes something in the game that EFFECTS EVERYONE then you all swoop to forums to cry out your hearts. This new trend of finding the laziest way to play a game mode is getting old. "they don't play my way so let's nerf it" thats what i read Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlutAdler Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 Because: The game is a grindfest, why not find a way to reduce said grind, or make it easier. Players will find a way to quicken the grind due to all these grindwalls. Whether you are a new player or a 2 year old player, you WILL burnout sooner or later and need ways to grind the fastest way possible. Exactly Exactly what? You're just confirming exactly that people who practice this are the problem.. Calling the game a "grind fest" is an excuse. It really is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhisperByte Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 People don't learn from Viver and E-Gate It is actually DE (and you) who haven't learned anything from Viver and E-Gate. Community will always find the most efficient method of farming that requires the least amount of effort. It's not limited to WF either. Pretty much all grind games boil down to efficiency. Now the question is how does this impact you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kutsus Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 It's not a new trend, ppl have been finding the laziest way to paly games since games were a thing, it has been a part of Warframe since day 1, what makes you think DE will suddenly dislike it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlutAdler Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 "they don't play my way so let's nerf it" thats what i read If that's what you read you need better comprehension skills. If that's what i was complaining about it'd be stupid since I don't have to play with people who do this. And I don't. I solved that quick fast in a hurry. This thread's purpose is stated directly at the start. " Here's to DE hoping that they address it" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p3z1 Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Exactly what? You're just confirming exactly that people who practice this are the problem.. Calling the game a "grind fest" is an excuse. It really is. A problem comes from another problem. The grind is the problem, leading to players abusing mechanics which also becomes a problem. Grindfest is an excuse? Please tell me how to get all the rewards given out without grinding. I also assume you didn't play "The Gradivus Dilemma" event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odik Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Sitting in a corner for 40 mintues is a tactic? And you're calling it effecient/effective. It kills the game. And I'm saying you're shooting yourself in the foot its because when DE changes something in the game that EFFECTS EVERYONE then you all swoop to forums to cry out your hearts. This new trend of finding the laziest way to play a game mode is getting old. Why u still crying ? Game could be killed by whining ppl just like in gw2 (our class too bad , buff it! Or nerf this class because i cant win him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) well....the game mode is called 'survival'...and if you watch those stupid survival shows/movies on TV then you'll know you have to do anything to survive, it's also like life somehow there's really no specific way to play survival missions......'keep moving and kill enemies' then that's exterminate, 'hold a specific spot 'camp' ' then that's defensethe only beauty in survival missions is that the players can play in any way they want, because you have to do anything to survive ;) EDIT: now the 'rep farm' in INT mission was kinda an exploit, cos players weren't doing what the game mode says so, as to hold the towers and kill enemies, they were just holding a spot and killing 'defense' Edited March 30, 2015 by Kenshin98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlutAdler Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 It's not a new trend, ppl have been finding the laziest way to paly games since games were a thing, it has been a part of Warframe since day 1, what makes you think DE will suddenly dislike it now? What's your reasoning then for changes made in regards to e-gate and viver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlutAdler Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 It is actually DE (and you) who haven't learned anything from Viver and E-Gate. Community will always find the most efficient method of farming that requires the least amount of effort. It's not limited to WF either. Pretty much all grind games boil down to efficiency. Now the question is how does this impact you? How hasn't DE learned anything from those situations? If I recall correctly they have a game out making bank and you're the one playing.. Where'd you leave your logic? You should go get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altey Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) How hasn't DE learned anything from those situations? If I recall correctly they have a game out making bank and you're the one playing.. Where'd you leave your logic? You should go get it. the only 1 here without logic is you oh sorry.was i TOO straight? Edited March 30, 2015 by Altey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlutAdler Posted March 30, 2015 Author Share Posted March 30, 2015 well....the game mode is called 'survival'...and if you watch those stupid survival shows/movies on TV then you'll know you have to do anything to survive, it's also like life somehow there's really no specific way to play survival missions......'keep moving and kill enemies' then that's exterminate, 'hold a specific spot 'camp' ' then that's defense the only beauty in survival missions is that the players can play in any way they want, because you have to do anything to survive ;) I guess that'd work if people could macro themselves in real life for hours on end to get rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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