Valkyr-Umbra Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) I'm not going to bother listing them, it'd take too long. We've got like 200 weapons, and no spear yet. To put that in context, we got a gunblade, 2 saw-guns, a laser canon and a throwing hammer before we got a spear. Does that seem a little backwards to anyone else? EDIT: as there seems to be some misunderstanding of the differences between spears and polearms... Spears are built mainly to be thrusted (or in some cases thrown), polearms are built mainly to be swung (yes you can swing a spear, or thrust a polearm, but its not the intended/most effective usage, also you really can't throw a polearm). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_weapon Edited April 5, 2015 by Snowman486 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmashingGudTime Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 but spears are totally not ninja enough for this space NINJA game....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteoHatto Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Tonbo is a spear, its derived from Tonbogiri, which is a spear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyr-Umbra Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) but spears are totally not ninja enough for this space NINJA game....... Yes, because my Jet-Propelled hammer is TOTALLY ninja... Tonbo is a spear, its derived from Tonbogiri, which is a spear. Polearm's and spears are two different kind of weapons. Spear's are typically thrusting weapons, where as polearms lean more towards sweeping. Tonbogiri is a spear, but Tonbo is a polearm, unfortunately. Edited April 5, 2015 by Snowman486 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)fizzer94 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Tonbo is a spear, its derived from Tonbogiri, which is a spear.Except its not really very spear-like in this game.Slash Damage? If if was really a spear, it would be a Puncture weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteoHatto Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Except its not really very spear-like in this game. Slash Damage? If if was really a spear, it would be a Puncture weapon. Just because it doesn't conform to stereotype, doesn't make it any less of a spear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deshiel Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Everything is ninja if you slash the lotus symbol on it bruh. Give this man a spear! ... and a spear prime named Britney for me pls :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nighttide77 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 well...if you consider some of the "ninja" anime out there... *cough* Naruto *cough* *cough* Basilisk *cough* *cough* Ninja Scroll *cough* you might find the word "ninja" can extend to "shinobi", which can be interpreted in many different ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)fizzer94 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Just because it doesn't conform to stereotype, doesn't make it any less of a spearSemantics.The Tonbo isn't wielded like a spear. It is used more like a staff. The point is, that when people are asking for a spear, they mean that they want a thrusting spear, not another swinging polearm/staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odadda Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 we have spears, we just lack proper animations to use them as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyr-Umbra Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) Just because it doesn't conform to stereotype, doesn't make it any less of a spear It's not a stereotype, its a category (stereotype suggests oversimplification). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_weapon Spears are built mainly to be thrusted, polearms are built mainly to be swung (yes you can swing a spear, or thrust a polearm, but its not the intended/most effective usage). Edited April 5, 2015 by Snowman486 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSIlent1 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Except its not really very spear-like in this game. Slash Damage? If if was really a spear, it would be a Puncture weapon. Why puncture? there's more spears then thrusting a spear through someones body, where you could slash at them not get it stuck or sweep and slash multiple people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyr-Umbra Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 Why puncture? there's more spears then thrusting a spear through someones body, where you could slash at them not get it stuck or sweep and slash multiple people. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_weapon Spears are built mainly to be thrusted, polearms are built mainly to be swung (yes you can swing a spear, or thrust a polearm, but its not the intended/most effective usage). Both are pole weapons, but polearms serve the function you describe, not spears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Akuma_Asura_ Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 we have spears, we just lack proper animations to use them as such.That's why we need a spear stance for the polearms even if they don't have pointy ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)fizzer94 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Why puncture? there's more spears then thrusting a spear through someones body, where you could slash at them not get it stuck or sweep and slash multiple people.I mean primarily puncture damage. There would probably be a bit of slash/impact damage too, but mostly puncture.Reason: it makes the most sense. spears are primarily thrusting weapons, and that is what they do best. as far as melee weapons go, they are the standard thrusting and puncturing weapon. Reason 2: we have more than enough slash melee weapons for a long time. There are very few puncture melee weapons (Halikar and Fang/Fang Prime), and it would be nice to get another puncture weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyr-Umbra Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 That's why we need a spear stance for the polearms even if they don't have pointy ends. If you tried to use orthos prime the way you would use a normal thrusting spear, you'd slice yourself up pretty good unfortunately lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitomo Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 man, do I have a meme for U ... no, two actualy ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodDarius Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 A spear wouldn't be bad. Like, a stance with a combo that is just a charge forward, impaling everything in its run. I can imagine side swings attack with stagger but weak, perfect for Crowd Control and a sneak attack similar to the one of Dark Souls, piercing the enemy and raising it to bath in his blood and parry animation that swings at the feet of the opponent to knock him down and finish him. Gods I love spears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerenax Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Tonbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickZero Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Play the Tonbogiri without a stance. Different set of moves - spear thrusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easymac Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 I rather see javelins, rather then spears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodDarius Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 I rather see javelins, rather then spears. http://img.pandawhale.com/82733-why-dont-we-have-both-gif-YF1l.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)adrian80 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Reason 2: we have more than enough slash melee weapons for a long time. There are very few puncture melee weapons (Halikar and Fang/Fang Prime), and it would be nice to get another puncture weapon. This right here. We need more uses for Auger Strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteoHatto Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkyr-Umbra Posted April 5, 2015 Author Share Posted April 5, 2015 Tonbo is a spear, its derived from Tonbogiri, which is a spear. Polearm's and spears are two different kind of weapons. Spear's are typically thrusting weapons, where as polearms lean more towards sweeping. Tonbogiri is a spear, but Tonbo is a polearm, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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