Spartans Vs Tenno

[Jakcal]

Obvious answer, but I want to see what other people think.

No powers for the Tenno Due to several riots and strikes, I am making it so that they have one energy.

Round 1: An Excalibur Prime and Master Chief fight h2h

Round 2: An Excalibur Prime has primed versions of the standard issue equipment (P Braton, P Late, P Skana).

Master Chief has a MA5D, M6H, and a Plasma Sword.

Round 3: Composite Spartan (Every feat performed by every spartan is placed into a single Spartan)

Vs

Rhino with iron skin activated. Cannot reactivate.

Same equipment.

Scenario 2: Excalibur replaces Master Chief at the beginning of halo 1 (He is forced to use weapons from Halo verse, and gets Cortana) how far does he make it? Does he wreck everything?

No game play mechanics like 1000 damage equals install kill. In fact, no game play mechanics at all.

Ignore Mirage lore lel

Edited July 14, 2015 by Jakcal

[[DE]Grzegorz]

No powers for the Tenno.

wtf is dis

 

anyway

jumpkick>finisher

Edited July 14, 2015 by Mofixil

[Jakcal]

wtf is dis

 

anyway

jumpkick>finisher

Tenno are pretty stronk even without their powers.

[Revel72]

Sam Gideon vs Excalibur

 

That would be a fight to remember >:D

[Jakcal]

It's not Warframe without abilities , there would be little differences between frames without them ;P

Fine.

Warframe with zero one energy.

Better?

Edited July 14, 2015 by Jakcal

[[DE]Grzegorz]

Fine.

Warframe with zero one energy.

Better?

Can I use Energy Siphon and max efficiency :v?

[Jakcal]

Can I use Energy Siphon and max efficiency :v?

Why do you want to wreck the Spartans so badly D:

It's not like the Chief can counter the powers.

They're fairly equal in physical stats as long as you ignore Mirage. Which we will. Sorry no sleep :P

[(XBOX)Grihaly]

Chief would trash Excal in two minutes. Give him an M6D, that gets cut down to 7 seconds.

[[DE]Grzegorz]

Chief would trash Excal in two minutes. Give him an M6D, that gets cut down to 7 seconds.

7 seconds.

[Melos-mevim]

I have to say tenno, despite being a fan of halo and warframe evidence points to tenno as being the superior fighters, tenno are faster and stronger than a human (evidence we can carry around heavy weapons like opticor, gorgon, supra, galatine, scindo prime, jat kittag all with no effort and we wield them like they are weightless) 

[zoboso]

Tenno would lose, between space magic, and our propensity for carrying powerful weapons the hubris of the common tenno is immense. though in all likelihood the spartan in question would need a plasma pistol or another emp weapon to even out the odds or die to P4tW.

[Jakcal]

Chief would trash Excal in two minutes. Give him an M6D, that gets cut down to 7 seconds.

How so

Tenno would lose, between space magic, and our propensity for carrying powerful weapons the hubris of the common tenno is immense. though in all likelihood the spartan in question would need a plasma pistol or another emp weapon to even out the odds or die to P4tW.

Not sure what that's supposed to mean. It's not like he'll go easy unless he wants to scan Master Chief first.

[(XBOX)Grihaly]

I have to say tenno, despite being a fan of halo and warframe evidence points to tenno as being the superior fighters, tenno are faster and stronger than a human 

So are Spartans. They can flip a 66 metric ton tank with one hand.

 

How so

What are you not understanding? Chief would trash a Tenno because he is the friggin' Chief! It would take less time with an M6D because that thing can OHK a Hunter.

[[DE]Grzegorz]

So are Spartans. They can flip a 66 metric ton tank with one hand.

 

What are you not understanding? Chief would trash a Tenno because he is the friggin' Chief! It would take less time with an M6D because that thing can OHK a Hunter.

Spartans are genetically enhanced humans, having superior strength and durability. It also allows them to utilise Mjolnir armour (which would kill or seriously harm normal humans otherwise if I remember correctly).

 

...sounds like Grineer, without the "genetic deterioration" part.

 

However, considering the "theoretically indestructible" nature of Mjolnir armour (resistance to radiation, toxins, atmospheric factors, most kinds of gunfire), and the lovely fact that it is supposed to withstand Covenant energy weaponry just long enough to give the operator time to neutralize the threat, I guess that Corpus would be perfectly suited to fight armoured Spartans.

 

And Tenno with Corpus energy weaponry would be just... wow.

 

However, when considering "real life applications", where (as, in game) Spartan can withstand being shot for just a few seconds (and that's against AI, as in MP there's a chance you will get instagibbed by .50 cal). I can safely assume that Mjolnirs' shield loses its potency quickly, opening the wielder to further attacks.

 

A Tenno with a damn Braton could easily dispatch a Spartan soldier.

Edited July 14, 2015 by Mofixil

[TheBrsrkr]

Tenno would win. Better shield tech, better guns (Titanium A is pretty good, but whatever we shoot must be freakin' monstrous comparing Grineer armor to actual Grineer sizes), better movement, maybe a bit slower but a LOT hardier, and even one ability is quite a devastating blow to a single target.

[Jakcal]

So are Spartans. They can flip a 66 metric ton tank with one hand.

 

What are you not understanding? Chief would trash a Tenno because he is the friggin' Chief! It would take less time with an M6D because that thing can OHK a Hunter.

Flipping mammoths are Easter eggs. Master Chief can lift 780 kilograms, based on him being able to lift three times his weight, and his armor doubling his strength. His weight is 130 kilograms.

All warframes can punch a bear sized Ancient (at least 300 kg possibly over 700) up into the air casually.

Probably going to be able to lift even more.

They are capable of giving German suplex's to tiger size chargers

Lift Grineer, with medium infantry weighing over a ton, according to some calcs.

Even Loki can survive an rpg to the face.

[djentlemenBehold]

So are Spartans. They can flip a 66 metric ton tank with one hand.

 

That was an Easter Egg exploiting Bungie physics and game mechanics in one multiplayer map. It was never canon and it's physically impossible for any human, let alone a SPARTAN to do.

 

Canonically Master Chief can lift 3x his own body weight without his suit, so nearly 900 lbs. The MJOLNIR armor further amplifies this to around 1-3 metric tons, not 66 tons.

[(XBOX)Grihaly]

Spartans are genetically enhanced humans, having superior strength and durability. It also allows them to utilise Mjolnir armour (which would kill or seriously harm normal humans otherwise if I remember correctly).

 

 

 

A Tenno with a damn Braton could easily dispatch a Spartan soldier.

You are correct... Until that point in the timeline where 343 dropped a steaming doo on the lore with Spartan IVs.

 

Lol no.

 

 

 

Flipping mammoths are Easter eggs. Master Chief can lift 780 kilograms, based on him being able to lift three times his weight, and his armor doubling his strength. His weight is 130 kilograms.

All warframes can punch a bear sized Ancient (at least 300 kg possibly over 700) up into the air casually.

 

Scorpions are not Elephants. Elephants weigh 205 tonnes.

 

Your headcanon doesn't confirm Ancient weight.

 

 

That was an Easter Egg exploiting Bungie physics and game mechanics in one multiplayer map. It was never canon and it's physically impossible for any human, let alone a SPARTAN to do.

 

Canonically Master Chief can lift 3x his own body weight without his suit, so nearly 900 lbs. The MJOLNIR armor further amplifies this to around 1-3 metric tons, not 66 tons.

Read the above.

[(PSN)Pharen]

So are Spartans. They can flip a 66 metric ton tank with one hand.

 

What are you not understanding? Chief would trash a Tenno because he is the friggin' Chief! It would take less time with an M6D because that thing can OHK a Hunter.

Well to be fair, the Tenno don't take fall damage, have powers, and have better equipment at there disposal. Also I know in the game a spartan can flip a tank because gameplay, but look at how weak he actually is when you see him in the campaign, struggling to open a lift door. Even the latest master chief (Halo 5) lacks comparing to tenno abilities, especially in terms of movement.

[(XBOX)Grihaly]

Well to be fair, the Tenno don't take fall damage, have powers, and have better equipment at there disposal. Also I know in the game a spartan can flip a tank because gameplay, but look at how weak he actually is when you see him in the campaign, struggling to open a lift door. Even the latest master chief (Halo 5) lacks comparing to tenno abilities, especially in terms of movement.

This whole discussion, Tenno are nullified...

 

Halo 3 didn't have fall damage :P

 

Game designers will make any excuse for QTEs.

[(PSN)Pharen]

This whole discussion, Tenno are nullified...

 

Halo 3 didn't have fall damage :P

 

Game designers will make any excuse for QTEs.

Tenno may be without energy, but all it takes is one large restore.

 

Halo 3 is the only entry without fall damage 1, 2, ODST, Reach, and 4 all have it. Haven't played enough of 5's beta to test if it is being continued.

 

*Bad game designers will make any excuse for QTEs.

 

Master chief is basically a tank. Slow moving, Hard hitting (you can make canon claims but the fact is gameplay trumps all and spartans are not quick by any means). However, considering how little his armour saves him from damage (dies after a few rounds once shield is down, shield doesn't stay up long), he would be slaughtered by the Tenno, there sheer speed would make it so he doesn't even land a hit, let alone take down the Tenno shields.

[Jakcal]

You are correct... Until that point in the timeline where 343 dropped a steaming doo on the lore with Spartan IVs.

Lol no.

Scorpions are not Elephants. Elephants weigh 205 tonnes.

Your headcanon doesn't confirm Ancient weight.

Read the above.

Well, your right about the Ancient, there's no way we can get the weight.

OK, we can ignore the Ancient but we're told the armor of lancers is carbon steel.

Look at how bulky it is compared to Mjolnir. Thickness in Grineer armor seem to range from 20-100 mm. Mjolnir seems to max out at 40mm.

Not only that, but Master Chief's Armour is made out of titanium, a metal weighing 40% lighter than steel, yet weighs 321 kilograms.

700 kilograms seems like a reasonable low end estimate for Grineer armour. Than add the weight of a 7 foot tall person, a slightly under weight 7 foot person would weigh 100 kilograms.

Low end 800 kilograms.

Let's go ahead and ignore that though. Excalibur is still strong enough to punch the floor with enough force that it knocks heavily armoured Grineer on their asses. Rhino can slash through metal walls like their wet paper.

Advantages of Chief:

"luck"

Faster running speed, nearly 3x as fast.

Has help from AI.

Better melee weapon.

Extremely accurate (If we use Linda as an example)

Advantages of an Excalibur:

Better durability (Tanks beams that one shot small drop ships)

Better reflexes (Slapping bullets out of the air and blocking an energy attack)

Better guns.

Better Strength (Not as much as you would think though unless you bring up the ability to kick someone a 100 meters away)

More agile

Heres kicking strength.

Joking :D

maybe

[(XBOX)Grihaly]

Tenno may be without energy, but all it takes is one large restore.

 

Halo 3 is the only entry without fall damage 1, 2, ODST, Reach, and 4 all have it. Haven't played enough of 5's beta to test if it is being continued.

 

DOESN'T WORK!!!!!

 

Lol I played two matches of the beta, it was bahd. Looking forward to the story and Warzone, though. But I might be in default armor for a looong time.

Not only that, but Master Chief's Armour is made out of titanium, a metal weighing 40% lighter than steel, yet weighs 321 kilograms.

700 kilograms seems like a reasonable low end estimate for Grineer armour. Than add the weight of a 7 foot tall person, a slightly under weight 7 foot person would weigh 100 kilograms.

Low end 800 kilograms.

I'm not metal-ologist, but isn't titanium stronger than steel?

[MageMeat]

I'm not metal-ologist, but isn't titanium stronger than steel?

Stronger =/= heavier (if I'm interpreting what you're asking right)

[VivaNyanCat]

Superman wins.