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The Warframe Market Is A Joke And Actively Discourages Impulse Purchases (Updated, Includes Solution To Installed Catalysts/weapon Slot On Weapons)

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Eidolon_Slayer

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How do you know?

There are endless stores around the world selling common items for ridiculous prices and they do fine.

Hek, people continuously by the Iphone which costs several hundreds of dollars each time a new version comes out.

I remember seeing a pair of socks on Beverly Hills costing $1,000. 

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Siubijeni

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This is so much yes. This is a wonderful idea, and very reasonable pricing. The fact that this issue has come up so much, with so many references to studies and professional commentary on the subject should tell DE something.

 

You know what else should tell DE something? 900+ upvotes to the OP. Adding mine to it as I type.

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After a talk with Cifrer (thanks brah) on Page 5, we quickly came up with a way to balance out the pricing of the weapons in a way that makes them cheap while also taking into account Orokin Catalysts and weapon slots are included. The solution? Make them optional extras.

 

(Excuse the awful obvious Paint edits, I ain't no graphic artist)

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The person can choose to buy just the weapon, or pay a little extra for an installed Catalyst at a discounted price. And if they want to, even pay a little extra for a weapon slot. This way everybody wins.

Much the same as anyone I would like more realistic pricing.  But I really do like the idea of having options of buying with or without slots etc.

Personally I keep everything, Warframes, Weapons etc, so I will always need extra slots.  But I know many delete or sell Warframes and Weapons when they have maxed them to make room for new ones.  So having the option not to buy with a slot or not can only be a plus in my books.

 

btw well done Indraroh, nice post, you've clearly put some time in to this.

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Silvershadow66

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From a busniess standpoint they are loosing ALOT of money

 

No they aren't, not in the long term.

 

If they priced the warframes and weapons so that everyone could buy them easily then that reduces the amount of time people spend playing before they have everything and are "finished". For a F2P game keeping the player numbers up is just as important as revenue this month. F2P games look to constant revenue stream over years.

 

People put in lots of time playing the game because they feel the frames are overpriced, but people still end up spending money for slots etc.

 

People still buy frames and weapons when a plat discount comes up because it feels like a "good deal" compared to the normal prices.

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SonicSonedit

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If they priced the warframes and weapons so that everyone could buy them easily then that reduces the amount of time people spend playing before they have everything and are "finished". For a F2P game keeping the player numbers up is just as important as revenue this month.

You are wrong. This game doesn't have any sort of "Platinum Account" or anything. They have no point to keep people interested in game for a long time.

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VoidGhost

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I'm sure everybody by now has noticed how absurdly priced everything is in the Warframe market.

 

DE, why is everything so expensive? I know you're new to the whole F2P scene, but making everything cost an arm and a leg is not how you make a profit. Who are you appealing to with garbage like this?

 

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125 Platinum (nearly $10) for a Dual Skana? And it's apparently on sale? How does this count as a sale? Last I checked, sales were meant to be enticing to at least somebody.

 

800 Platinum (the price of the average AAA game you can find on Steam) for two poxy reskins and a scythe?

 

Who is going to buy these besides people who have zero sense of what money is worth?

 

When you put things up in the store, you want to appeal to the average Joe. The guy who has $5 left in his account after paying the bills. The kid who got $5 for delivering newspapers and wants to spend it on his favorite game. You appeal to these people because they are your most common customer, the broadest audience that plays your game. You DON'T want to purely appeal to people who apparently S#&$ money and own a Bentley, because that's what it seems you're doing.

 

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These are your cheapest Platinum packs, these are the most commonly bought packages. Appeal to the people who will only put money down on THESE packages. Take advantage of the rich folk second.

 

Now I know what some of you will be thinking. "DE can price these things however they want, it's their game and they need to eat!" Fair enough, but pricing items so that NOBODY but rich kids will buy them is not how you make a profit. What's more likely to earn the highest amount of dough; a cheap product that sells continuously or a really expensive product that barely sells at all?

 

I personally spent some time altering some market prices as an example and discussed with others what we agreed they should be. This is in by no means a "DO THIS NOW," it's merely a suggestion we feel would help DE earn more profit and make the overall playerbase much happier. That in the end is what matters.

 

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As you can see for weapons, we agreed upon a $5 limit. After all these weapons can be farmed up with relative ease. So what good is it to make half the weapons cost $15 when somebody will immediately jump back and just say "I can farm these weapons up in like an hour of farming, I'm not paying that much."

 

You want to make the ability to purchase these weapons seem like a service instead of a complete con. If the weapons were priced as they were above, a person would actually think about purchasing some of these weapons. "It would take ages to get those Akboltos if I did it normally. $5 isn't that much after all so I guess it's okay to buy them, and it comes with an Orokin Catalyst and a weapon slot as well."

 

The person wouldn't feel ripped off, unlike the current system, because for all intents and purposes he didn't get ripped off, he got a pretty damn good deal. That's what you want, you want everybody to consider buying weapons from the store first, before they even think of grinding the weapon up in game.

 

Here's another one we did for the actual frames.

 

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I know I know, we bumped up the price of Loki, Volt and Excalibur. But overall every frame is now in line of $10-$15. That's what we felt would be the best price zone for them and what the average consumer would appreciate more. Instead of crap like Rhino and Ash costing 325 Platinum which is just insane. Did people even buy those? If you did, you got ripped hard.

 

Another thing DE needs to start doing is having sales that matter. Sales are ALWAYS when companies and other businesses earn the biggest profit, people love a good sale and will usually save up some money waiting for one to drop. Look at the above frame prices, they're okay, they'd be purchased a few times, certainly A LOT more than they are now, which is more money in the bank for DE. But what if... ALL FEMALE FRAMES 50% OFF SALE WEEKEND happened.

 

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"HOLY @(*()$ S#&$" - Everybody looking for a good deal.

 

You have now got everybody who can only afford the small packages SCURRYING to grab these frames while they're discounted. People who would have never bought these frames normally whether it be due to other financial reasons taking precedence or just refusing altogether to drop that kind of money on a F2P game. Look at Steam, look how much profit Valve earns during Steam sales. They earn MILLIONS, their profits skyrocket. People LOVE sales, so take advantage of them.

 

Well, there's my long &#! post about the market. DE, I'm begging you. Make the market prices actually sane. Everybody will benefit from it. You'll earn more money, and the playerbase will be happier and not feel like they walked into a con house.

 

-UPDATED-

After a talk with Cifrer (thanks brah) on Page 5, we quickly came up with a way to balance out the pricing of the weapons in a way that makes them cheap while also taking into account Orokin Catalysts and weapon slots are included. The solution? Make them optional extras.

 

(Excuse the awful obvious Paint edits, I ain't no graphic artist)

pricechoice.png

 

The person can choose to buy just the weapon, or pay a little extra for an installed Catalyst at a discounted price. And if they want to, even pay a little extra for a weapon slot. This way everybody wins.

800 platinum including the STALKER himself the same way should bundles be given.All of the work from DEV team is great yet more versatility is what we need

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KvotheTheArcane1

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Impulse purchases not averted... I am living proof...

...Of having no impulse control? Of having lots of extra money so you don't need to worry about ~15$ a weapon?

 

800 platinum including the STALKER himself the same way should bundles be given.All of the work from DEV team is great yet more versatility is what we need

Please never again quote a huge post like that, just delete the stuff in the quote box, and put "snip".

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VoidGhost

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...Of having no impulse control? Of having lots of extra money so you don't need to worry about ~15$ a weapon?

 

Please never again quote a huge post like that, just delete the stuff in the quote box, and put "snip".

The industry has many ways your choices are included within them

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