tomrair Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 So after the Vulklok nerf and Tactical Potatoes video, everybody is ranting and raving about those pesky nerfs, which I think is at least partially justified. The game needs some serious rebalancing, but that can't be achieved by just nerfing formerly good weapons/frames/sentinels into oblivion. If DE wants to broaden the spectrum of weapons that are usable in endgame (meaning Level 60 enemies and above), then it needs to provide a wider choice of weapons that are actually capable of getting the job done. To counter the deplorable trend of nerfing, here's my question to the esteemed users of this forum: Which weapons do you think need a buff? Which weapons are such awful pieces of scrap metal that bringing them to the battlefield would just be embarrassing? Which weapons haven't you used in months, or perhaps not even bothered to build? And which of these do you think are so awful that no buff can fix them and should be taken out of the game? As a starter, here are my No. 1 buff candidates: The Corpus energy weapons. Now the Supra got a (little) buff lately, but apart from that there is a strange dichotomy about them, as the Quanta Vandal, the Amprex and the Opticor rock, and all the rest sucks. Badly. If you would bring the Dera, Flux Rifle, Tetra, the normal Quanta or even the buffed Supra to a Void run, you would be laughed out of your Squad. And does anybody even remember the Spectra? I think that's a real shame, as these weapons could be a lot of fun, and I miss using them. As for junk weapons that no buff can fix, I think it's safe to say that absolutely nobody would shed tears if the Hind was taken out of the game. Seriously, this thing would do more damage if you would whack the Grineer over the head with it instead of shooting them. Same goes for the Vulkar, the Paracyst, the Mutalist Quanta, the Kraken and the Sheev. They are superfluous and just take up space in the market or Dojo Lab. So what's your opinion? Which weapon would you like to get a buff? And which ones could the game do without? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgax Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Burst weaponry (such as hind, burston, etc...) needs some love panthera could be better (alt fire mode is great even if ammo consumption is huge but the main attack is lackluster). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shimonoki_Ryuji Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Yes, Corpus lab weapons are pretty garbage for the research/build requirements - Cestra, prova, dera, spectra, supra, glaxion, flux rifle. Infested lab weapons - ACRID, scoliac, embolist, synapse, paracyst, mutalist quanta. Grineer lab - Ignis, buzlok. Tenno lab - Daikyu, nami skyla, venka, silva & aegis. Also - Gorgon, all snipers, hind, miter, panthera, all ether melees, all daggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrinityPrime Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Buff the Ignis 2015-2016! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)JasonsNightmare Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 You mean that you can't one-shot level 80 Bombards with the Seer? What kind of scrub are you? This is ridiculous. One of the BEST, AND MOST POWERFUL GUNS IN THE GAME, and no one uses it. No one. Can you believe that? Without that pesky critical chance, you always know what kind of damage you are dealing, the low fire-rate makes it easier to control the telescope zoom (did you know the flag on the moon has a "Made in China" sticker on it? Neither did I, until I built the Seer). Who needs more than 8 shots in a clip, with only moderate damage per round? #NerfSeer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prany Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Pfff, no buffs needed. Since challenge is found in endless missions (as in never ends) endgame is how far our weapons and powers can carry us. So if we would nerf everything to level where we struggle already in first rotation, end game would be in first rotation. And that would be wonderful because people who refuse to piss in a jar could also reach endgame. Everyone wins. NERF ALL THE THINGS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YasaiTsume Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Pyrana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ada_Wong_SG Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Nerf the enemies, now all the weapons would be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAnticitizen Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Ignis, Silva & Aegis, Ack & Brunt(Slightly), DERA, Karak, Tysis, Sicarus Prime, Glaive Prime, Ignis, Dark Dagger, Panthera, Twin Gremlins, Detron, Brakk, Bronco Prime and it's akimbo variant, Laser Rifle, Sweeper, Deth Machine Rifle, Gorgon and maybe it's variants, and possibly the Supra. And yes, I have used all of these if anyone bothers asking me if I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidrek Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Pyrana I think all he needs is a reload speed buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volinus7 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 All snipers <<< too weak on general use but good at taking down prosecutor in 1-2clicks, need innate punch through and damage buff All Latrons Sybaris Grinlok <<<Too weak on general use, need innate punch through and damage buff Ogris needs homing or guiding mechanic Seer.....Seeerrrrr SEER!!!!! needs AOE radius and dmg buff Gorgon Family needs damage buff and crit buff<<< It's gatling right? DPS is lower than submachinegun like Pgrakata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyeclone Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I think the daikyu could use some buffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revox79 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Boar Prime and Strun Wraith really need some love in order to match up to the other buffed up shotguns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomrair Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 You mean that you can't one-shot level 80 Bombards with the Seer? What kind of scrub are you? This is ridiculous. One of the BEST, AND MOST POWERFUL GUNS IN THE GAME, and no one uses it. No one. Can you believe that? Without that pesky critical chance, you always know what kind of damage you are dealing, the low fire-rate makes it easier to control the telescope zoom (did you know the flag on the moon has a "Made in China" sticker on it? Neither did I, until I built the Seer). Who needs more than 8 shots in a clip, with only moderate damage per round? #NerfSeer. LOL man, your sense of irony is appreciated. No wonder Vor is so easy to kill if he uses that thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchesco Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Daikyu all day long. It is surpassed even by a MK-1 Paris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Snowbluff Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Buff Burston Prime. +10-15 damage, +5-10% status at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyguyk Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Burst weapons, ignis, buzlok, silva/aegis, ogris i guess, flux rifle and synapse, lots of fast firing secondaries could use a bigger ammo pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDMAD Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Embolist the forgoten mr 8 weapon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AM-Bunny Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Paracyst. It's the only weapon I've ever made a thread asking for a buff/nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven_Face Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 The whole game needs adjustments / overhaul. Asking for certain weapons to be rebalanced is only a band-aid mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beol Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I like to think someday the Flux Rifle will be good again. Also, power creep has gone so far (so very far ..) that they could rollback the gorgon accuracy nerfs and none of the variants would even be good. So they should. Supra could get the same treatment and still not quite be top tier .. good, though. Also, every burst fire weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glitch_Kitten Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Angstrum, poor little guy has been forgotten, and if the multi shot changes come? goodbye firing 21 rockets at once and hello mid tier, poor damage, hand-held kamikazee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resolus Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Vasto Prime. It was actually able to hold its own against the likes of Lex Prime until the Lex got buffed beyond belief. I miss my gunslinger status pistol. Edit: That, or bring Lex back down from insanely good at everything. Edited September 14, 2015 by Resolus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineart Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 oh boy i am already excited for the next update! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traybong111 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Like many others have said, majority of research weapons could use some buff: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/389821-lets-buff-some-research-weapons-aka-supra-buff-thread-92732/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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